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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 08:19

What we need really are more women as head of state.

Not sure how much longer George has to go in his term, but sounds like he might be replaced by Hillary or Condalisa.

If only Islam was slightly more tolerant of women we could then envisage a Mrs. Iotolah of Iran. (I see a fatwah heading my way )

The girls could then meet up have a chat, swap makeup tips, and stop all this bloody lunancy.

Its clear women are the more stabilising influence. Look at the mahem us chaps get up to in this forum. If we had more women on the forum, and maybe Mrs.Tony R moderating, I am sure we would all be more relaxed.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 08:12
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

It's the same media attack that was used so successfully to bamboozle the public over Iraq.The screw will be turned and turned until the public demands action and another moslem state will become the enemy-at-large.

Given,therefore,that some kind of conflict with Iran is inevitable,can I predict the following?

1. Nuclear Inspectors will try unsuccessfully to gain admission to the Nuclear Plants and decide that this means that Iran is developing weapons of mass distruction.
2. Atrocities carried out around the world that were previously not connected to Iran suddenly will be.
3.Terrorists will blow something up in either Europe or America and "Al Jazeirah" will claim to have a tape stating that the atrocity was in retaliation for the threats to Iran.
4.Tony Blair/The PM will align himself with Bush/USA Pres to maintain "world security"
5. Intelligence will link Iran with Osama Bin Laden and indeed they might be harbouring him.
6. Reports will detail that Iraq "Now has Nuclear Capability"
7. Iran will be attacked because "they might be about to blow us all up".Some kind of near miss will be reported,where but for intelligence a nuclear assault could have been attempted.
8. Some commentators will be shouted down for suggesting that a) Its all about Iran's oil and b) that there is no proof that Iran has nuclear weapons.
9.Iran will be crushed,hundreds of thousands of Iranian civilians will be killed,and a few thousand Allied troops (mainly Americans)
10. A relative of G.Bush will be linked to a firm overseeing oil production in Iran.
11. A commisiion will be set up that eventually discovers what everyone knew: there are no nuclear weapons in Iran and Osama Bin Laden is more than likely hiding in Pakistan/Kurdistan/Florida.
12. Someone on this forum will declare that he doesnt care how many Iranians are killed because so many American troops have lost their lives in the defence of their country.
13.MTS will be hounded off the forum ()

Seriously.

It seems you have the same crystal ball as me Tony. Thats pretty much exactly what I think is going to happen. But I dont think this will be another Iraq. It could be a lot worse. It's a different 'enemy' this time.... 

If Iran is attacked, they will retalliate against Israel. They have the means to. It would be a bloodbath, making the Iraq conflict look like a chimps tea party.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 07:52

It's the same media attack that was used so successfully to bamboozle the public over Iraq.The screw will be turned and turned until the public demands action and another moslem state will become the enemy-at-large.

Given,therefore,that some kind of conflict with Iran is inevitable,can I predict the following?

1. Nuclear Inspectors will try unsuccessfully to gain admission to the Nuclear Plants and decide that this means that Iran is developing weapons of mass distruction.
2. Atrocities carried out around the world that were previously not connected to Iran suddenly will be.
3.Terrorists will blow something up in either Europe or America and "Al Jazeirah" will claim to have a tape stating that the atrocity was in retaliation for the threats to Iran.
4.Tony Blair/The PM will align himself with Bush/USA Pres to maintain "world security"
5. Intelligence will link Iran with Osama Bin Laden and indeed they might be harbouring him.
6. Reports will detail that Iraq "Now has Nuclear Capability"
7. Iran will be attacked because "they might be about to blow us all up".Some kind of near miss will be reported,where but for intelligence a nuclear assault could have been attempted.
8. Some commentators will be shouted down for suggesting that a) Its all about Iran's oil and b) that there is no proof that Iran has nuclear weapons.
9.Iran will be crushed,hundreds of thousands of Iranian civilians will be killed,and a few thousand Allied troops (mainly Americans)
10. A relative of G.Bush will be linked to a firm overseeing oil production in Iran.
11. A commisiion will be set up that eventually discovers what everyone knew: there are no nuclear weapons in Iran and Osama Bin Laden is more than likely hiding in Pakistan/Kurdistan/Florida.
12. Someone on this forum will declare that he doesnt care how many Iranians are killed because so many American troops have lost their lives in the defence of their country.
13.MTS will be hounded off the forum ()

Seriously.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 07:22
It's a throny issue to be sure but I guess you can always say, how many countries in the world have nuclear power but NO nuclear weapons?

I can sense another middle east 'conflict' coming on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 06:39

I like to think I bring a little ray of sunshine to the forum..  Perhaps I should change my user name to Grim Reaper..

For what it's worth we have been here before with the nuclear thing. The guy who wrote the article in my link is a professor of economics at the University of ottawa. What actually qualifies him as a military strategist I've no idea. I see it as no more than opinion, albeit a well argued and fairly frightening one.

Perhaps this is the build up to the next in the series of 'Resource Wars' ; the clamouring of the 'fittest' nations to secure the worlds dwindling fuel reserves, masquerading as some ill concieved fight between good and evil. One thing is for sure, anyone who thinks the 'cold war' is really over, must have slept through the 90's.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 06:15

Oh God.

Well if bird flu doesn't get us,

or the ice caps melting don't drown us,

or a meteroite doesn't crash into the Earth,

or terrorists don't wipe us out,

or George Galloway doesn't bore us all to death (arse)

this will get us.

 

Cheery old World isn't it.  Now where's my Lithium tablets gone...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:44

This week the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) will meet to decide whether to refer Iran to the UN Security council, in light of its refusal to stop it's pursuit of a nuclear energy program. The US and Israel believe, as do their allies, that the Islamic republic is pursuing a WMD program. Irans recently elected hard line government has been quoted as saying it wishes to 'wipe Israel of the map'

The Russians have said they will not stand in the way of a UN decision on Iran, in other words they would not veto any resolution for sanctions, but are keen for diplomacy to win out. They have offered Iran a deal wherby the Uranium enrichment process can be conducted on Russian soil, thus not allowing Iran the materials needed for a bomb. Iran are interested in the deal, and have stated that UN sanctions will not bring about an end to their energy program which they believe they have a right - in international law - to pursue.

If the security council passes a resolution for sanctions which is ignored by Iran, will military action be the next step? Will Israel act unilaterally? What effect would an attack on Iran do for US relations with China who recieves 13% of its oil from Iran, and with Russia, an ally of Iran who has been supplying her with parts for nuclear power stations as well as missiles and defence systems to deter/counter any attack from the Jewish state??

Would any conflict escalate into something bigger than we have seen in Iraq? This guy seems to think so....

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;code=%20CH20060103&articleId=1714

Perhaps the Russian compromise can avoid sanctions or conflict... Read about Chinas support below...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4649182.stm



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