Revival of Prog's enfant terrible, Phil Collins

I think Patrick Bateman from American Psycho said it best when he said that Collins' "worked best within the confines of a group". While I can't stand most of his solo work ("In The Air Tonight" being one of the more obvious exceptions), the work he did with post-Gabriel Genesis wasn't that bad, at least form the stuff I heard.

The T wrote: proggman wrote: In 2014, Phil Collins revealed that he was collaborating on new material with Adele. She's talented but I can't stand her songs. They got so overplayed everywhere that now they make me sick.

Agreed, familiarity breeds contempt but I feel the same way about Coldplay (and that is neither Coldplay's or Adele's fault )

Padraic wrote: proggman wrote: In 2014, Phil Collins revealed that he was collaborating on new material with Adele. I love Adele.

Barbu wrote: Go Phil!

uduwudu wrote: Mr Collins is a tremendous talent. A superb drummer - it's his phrasing that works for me and possibly the underlying reason why the CAS line up of Genesis may not have been so well received. A fine singer and his interviews on the box set DVDs show him to be a decent guy. His recollection of his letter from Roger Waters is quite priceless. His career included pursuing soul oriented pop music which was wildly successful. His success reflected on Genesis - but only so far. Being a singing star made people identify him but not the rest of the band. It was his soul influences that resuscitated Genesis and made them into a hard edged stream lined band. They continued and avoided the dinosaur label that the world of pop insists upon anyone they think.  Now a lot of people don't like Phil. Resentment of success perhaps? Over exposure in the media, possibly. Hardly his fault. Phil Collins pursued jazz, prog rock and soul music. The media are only interested in him as a pop singer. I recall his interview at an award show. Clearly celebratory i.e. slightly pissed.. he was about to mention that he was amazed a drummer from England from [interviewer interrupted him from nentioning the word "Genesis" on prime time TV (it was the a.m. when I saw it. There is a lot of anti-Phil sentiment and I think he gets a rough ride -  but does not deserve it. He entertained, shared his considerable musical abilities and we are all the better for it. If Phil Collins works with Adele, lucky Adele, lucky Phil, she has a quality voice and they should bring forth good music. One does not have to like it but that is NOT the same as something being awful. As all should know on this site where being fair, open minded and good taste for musical adventure prevail.

Mr Collins is a tremendous talent. A superb drummer - it's his phrasing that works for me and possibly the underlying reason why the CAS line up of Genesis may not have been so well received. A fine singer and his interviews on the box set DVDs show him to be a decent guy. His recollection of his letter from Roger Waters is quite priceless.

His career included pursuing soul oriented pop music which was wildly successful. His success reflected on Genesis - but only so far. Being a singing star made people identify him but not the rest of the band. It was his soul influences that resuscitated Genesis and made them into a hard edged stream lined band. They continued and avoided the dinosaur label that the world of pop insists upon anyone they think. 

Now a lot of people don't like Phil. Resentment of success perhaps? Over exposure in the media, possibly. Hardly his fault. Phil Collins pursued jazz, prog rock and soul music. The media are only interested in him as a pop singer. I recall his interview at an award show. Clearly celebratory i.e. slightly pissed.. he was about to mention that he was amazed a drummer from England from [interviewer interrupted him from nentioning the word "Genesis" on prime time TV (it was the a.m. when I saw it.

There is a lot of anti-Phil sentiment and I think he gets a rough ride -  but does not deserve it. He entertained, shared his considerable musical abilities and we are all the better for it.

If Phil Collins works with Adele, lucky Adele, lucky Phil, she has a quality voice and they should bring forth good music. One does not have to like it but that is NOT the same as something being awful. As all should know on this site where being fair, open minded and good taste for musical adventure prevail.

I still like Phil for all the good stuff he did.  No particular interest in the pop stuff.  I got a cheap used copy of Face Value but that is about as far as I am willing to go.  If you want to dig deeper into Phil go to early Brand X.  Also Marscape.  It's one of those rare gems that pretty much anyone would that hangs out at this site would enjoy.

I have enormous respect for Collins as a musician and integral member of Genesis, but if he has some kind of 'comeback' I can't imagine he'll be doing anything that's going to get my attention. It's likely to be fairly insispid, middle of the road music I imagine.

He has had a lot of bad press over the years though, which I don't think was deserved.

Phil Collins drummer = excellent.

Phil Collins pop star = terrible & waste of talent.

Adele is good singer