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Topic: Is Gilmour working on a new album? Posted: November 20 2013 at 16:32 |
Just saw this on another forum I visit...apparently Gilmour is working on a new album with David Crosby and Graham Nash of all people...
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Posted: November 18 2013 at 20:43 |
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Rumour had it Rick Wright had enough material for a new solo album prior to his death in 2008. It would be great to have them collaborate one more time for a studio release, even with the late Wright's input I think merging Gilmour's material into a Floyd piece would be far easier than Water's merging his.....besides the lads are getting on now and have nothing to prove. It would be nice though.
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I really can't see it happening, Chris. Although relations are cordial now, there has been far too much water under the bridge for any kind of formal studio collaboration. I will look forward to both solo albums instead, and hopefully enjoy both. |
I too have been... well, wishing more than hoping, that Gilmour and Waters (and Mason, of course) would collaborate to complete Wrights recordings into a last Pink Floyd album. Of course, this seems most unlikely, and I have absolutley no idea in what conditions Wright left his recordings (perhaps he already had recorded with other musicians, or didn't record enough, etc). Perhaps it would be a bit more likely that Gilmour could take those recordings and finish them as a Wright (or Wright and Gilmour) album. In the end, it would be great if those recordings could see the light of day in any form. Of course, money wouldn't be the reason for either Gilmour nor Waters to take such a job... but love towards music and Wright... in the end, it would need conviction on their part that they would be doing the right thing, and that they would like the final result.
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 15:08 |
Chris S wrote:
Rumour had it Rick Wright had enough material for a new solo album prior to his death in 2008. It would be great to have them collaborate one more time for a studio release, even with the late Wright's input I think merging Gilmour's material into a Floyd piece would be far easier than Water's merging his.....besides the lads are getting on now and have nothing to prove. It would be nice though.
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I really can't see it happening, Chris. Although relations are cordial now, there has been far too much water under the bridge for any kind of formal studio collaboration.
I will look forward to both solo albums instead, and hopefully enjoy both.
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 14:51 |
Rumour had it Rick Wright had enough material for a new solo album prior to his death in 2008. It would be great to have them collaborate one more time for a studio release, even with the late Wright's input I think merging Gilmour's material into a Floyd piece would be far easier than Water's merging his.....besides the lads are getting on now and have nothing to prove. It would be nice though.
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 13:59 |
^^ I think Guy is happy to be *playing the bass* for Floyd/Gilmour....
.....I can play tritones (or similarly sinister note/music) with a smile on my face. It's just great to play the bass !!
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 10:45 |
I get what you guys are saying, but I do actually think Floyd has got a lot of humour in their music. Especially the Syd years. Also what about Ummagumma - or the More album with that silly yet wonderful Spanish piece? Heck most of the early Wright lead tunes also had a unique clumsy British way about them that still make me chuckle a bit. Alan's psychedelic Breakfast? Seamus, Bike, Corporal Clegg and lots of others.
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 10:36 |
That is exactly what I think about girls dancing in a PF show(Deleicate Sound Of Thunder an Pulse).Gdansk and Royal Alber Hall shows were really better without those girls
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 10:23 |
aliano wrote:
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aliano wrote:
There are popular classic bands like Camel that came together after many years to please their fans and It is really disappointing to see both Waters and Gilmour planning new solo albums but not coming together and try to produce another PF album in their last years of their life.At least they could plan a live show and play Animals,The Wall and DSOTM..
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Isn't Camel really just Andy Latimer by a different name? Keyboardist Peter Bardens (the Richard Wright, or Tony Banks, of the band - imagine Floyd or Genesis w/o them) left Camel in 1978, never to return. Bassist Doug Ferguson left in 1977, and drummer Andy Ward left Camel in 1981. Did the original band ever come together again?
Floyd did reunite in 2005 for a performance at the global awareness event Live 8.
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Camel is a band that has changed lineup frequently and now they have the same lineup as their last album in 2002 so the new reunion is not just Latimer but CAMEL.Yes PF(Roger and Dave) even reunited few times after live 8 too.But Gilmour and Waters coming together is always special and I say that they should respect their fans all around the world and reunite again for the last time maybe.I like to see them playing Animals together which is sth I have never seen.
And I agree that Rick was an important part of their sound but the Collaboration of Gilmour and Waters can still result in great new music by itself for sure.
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But, to play devil's advocate here: Guy Pratt has been playing bass for Floyd since 1987 - much longer than Camel's lineup that goes back to 2002. (But, while Pratt might be a nice guy, and he's even married to Richard Wright's daughter, I've never been happy about his connection to Floyd. He seems too happy when he's playing: Floyd's not happy music.)
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 09:53 |
jude111 wrote:
aliano wrote:
There are popular classic bands like Camel that came together after many years to please their fans and It is really disappointing to see both Waters and Gilmour planning new solo albums but not coming together and try to produce another PF album in their last years of their life.At least they could plan a live show and play Animals,The Wall and DSOTM..
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Isn't Camel really just Andy Latimer by a different name? Keyboardist Peter Bardens (the Richard Wright, or Tony Banks, of the band - imagine Floyd or Genesis w/o them) left Camel in 1978, never to return. Bassist Doug Ferguson left in 1977, and drummer Andy Ward left Camel in 1981. Did the original band ever come together again?
Floyd did reunite in 2005 for a performance at the global awareness event Live 8.
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Camel is a band that has changed lineup frequently and now they have the same lineup as their last album in 2002 so the new reunion is not just Latimer but CAMEL.Yes PF(Roger and Dave) even reunited few times after live 8 too.But Gilmour and Waters coming together is always special and I say that they should respect their fans all around the world and reunite again for the last time maybe.I like to see them playing Animals together which is sth I have never seen. And I agree that Rick was an important part of their sound but the Collaboration of Gilmour and Waters can still result in great new music by itself for sure.
Edited by aliano - November 17 2013 at 09:55
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 08:42 |
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Also you can't do a Floyd album without Rick Wright. Just wouldn't be the same. He was as integral to their sound as the wah wah was to the early Hendrix albums. |
I've been hoping that Gilmour and Waters would record together again, as a tribute to Rick Wright. If a new Floyd album were dedicated to Richard Wright and somehow about him, then I'm all for the other 3 members making a new Floyd album. I can dream... (Also, it has to be really proggy and spacey, and sound like vintage Floyd circa 1973-1975...
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 08:11 |
jude111 wrote:
aliano wrote:
There are popular classic bands like Camel that came together after many years to please their fans and It is really disappointing to see both Waters and Gilmour planning new solo albums but not coming together and try to produce another PF album in their last years of their life.At least they could plan a live show and play Animals,The Wall and DSOTM..
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Isn't Camel really just Andy Latimer by a different name? Keyboardist Peter Bardens (the Richard Wright, or Tony Banks, of the band - imagine Floyd or Genesis w/o them) left Camel in 1978, never to return. Bassist Doug Ferguson left in 1977, and drummer Andy Ward left Camel in 1981. Did the original band ever come together again?
Floyd did reunite in 2005 for a performance at the global awareness event Live 8.
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My sentiments exactly Also you can't do a Floyd album without Rick Wright. Just wouldn't be the same. He was as integral to their sound as the wah wah was to the early Hendrix albums.
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 08:10 |
jude111 wrote:
aliano wrote:
There are popular classic bands like Camel that came together after many years to please their fans and It is really disappointing to see both Waters and Gilmour planning new solo albums but not coming together and try to produce another PF album in their last years of their life.At least they could plan a live show and play Animals,The Wall and DSOTM..
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Isn't Camel really just Andy Latimer by a different name? Keyboardist Peter Bardens (the Richard Wright, or Tony Banks, of the band - imagine Floyd or Genesis w/o them) left Camel in 1978, never to return. Bassist Doug Ferguson left in 1977, and drummer Andy Ward left Camel in 1981. Did the original band ever come together again?
Floyd did reunite in 2005 for a performance at the global awareness event Live 8.
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Consider that Bardens is passed away as well as Rick Wright. Anyway on youtube there's a movie of Latimer, Ferguson (more fat than Greg Lake) and Ward playing together in Latimer's house. I don't have the link but I've seen it.
The lineup is not all. The three above played on "I wish I'd Write A Song" of Philip Goodhand-Tait, and they didn't sound like Camel (it was 1971, just after The Brew)
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 08:02 |
aliano wrote:
There are popular classic bands like Camel that came together after many years to please their fans and It is really disappointing to see both Waters and Gilmour planning new solo albums but not coming together and try to produce another PF album in their last years of their life.At least they could plan a live show and play Animals,The Wall and DSOTM..
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Isn't Camel really just Andy Latimer by a different name? Keyboardist Peter Bardens (the Richard Wright, or Tony Banks, of the band - imagine Floyd or Genesis w/o them) left Camel in 1978, never to return. Bassist Doug Ferguson left in 1977, and drummer Andy Ward left Camel in 1981. Did the original band ever come together again? Floyd did reunite in 2005 for a performance at the global awareness event Live 8.
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 02:43 |
There are popular classic bands like Camel that came together after many years to please their fans and It is really disappointing to see both Waters and Gilmour planning new solo albums but not coming together and try to produce another PF album in their last years of their life.At least they could plan a live show and play Animals,The Wall and DSOTM..
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Posted: November 16 2013 at 22:10 |
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Personally, I think one ought to get On an Island before getting the live Gdansk. With Gdansk, one gets umpeenth versions of DSOFTM tracks played live, yet another rendition of Comfortably Numb and High Hopes, and an okay (albeit over-rated) version of Echoes that of course doesn't come close to equaling the original version nor the live version heard on Live at Pompeii. With an over-saturation of live discs (Delicate Sound of Thunder, Pulse, Is There Anybody Out There, In the Flesh, Remember That Night, Live at Gdansk), the one I quite like is David Gilmour in Concert, with acoustic renditions of Shine On and other tracks. |
The thing is, with Gdansk the whole "On an Island" is played, and for me, in a much better way (you might consider the other Floyd songs as a bonus). Actually, I might just as well never put the "On an Island" studio album again... if I want to listen to that piece of music, I'd rather put the CD or DVD of the live version. Of course, many people don't really like the way songs sound live and prefer the perfectly planned and executed studio versions. As for Echoes, there are parts I do like better on this new version... specially the guitar solos are so much better, more powerful, and more mature... still, there are some nuances that are lost for which overall I like better the studio version. Also, I wouldn't really say there's an over-saturation of live albums Floyd related, and I enjoy them all for their different reasons. Of course, David Gilmour in Concert is perhaps the most unique of this live albums, and has some great versions from most songs. |
The thing is, my favorite tracks from On an Island - the title-track, The Blue, Smile, and Where We Start - sound much better on the original album, in my opinion. But the other tracks, which I'm not all that crazy about, do actually sound better on the live album, strangely enough...
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Posted: November 16 2013 at 21:41 |
jude111 wrote:
Personally, I think one ought to get On an Island before getting the live Gdansk. With Gdansk, one gets umpeenth versions of DSOFTM tracks played live, yet another rendition of Comfortably Numb and High Hopes, and an okay (albeit over-rated) version of Echoes that of course doesn't come close to equaling the original version nor the live version heard on Live at Pompeii. With an over-saturation of live discs (Delicate Sound of Thunder, Pulse, Is There Anybody Out There, In the Flesh, Remember That Night, Live at Gdansk), the one I quite like is David Gilmour in Concert, with acoustic renditions of Shine On and other tracks. |
The thing is, with Gdansk the whole "On an Island" is played, and for me, in a much better way (you might consider the other Floyd songs as a bonus). Actually, I might just as well never put the "On an Island" studio album again... if I want to listen to that piece of music, I'd rather put the CD or DVD of the live version. Of course, many people don't really like the way songs sound live and prefer the perfectly planned and executed studio versions. As for Echoes, there are parts I do like better on this new version... specially the guitar solos are so much better, more powerful, and more mature... still, there are some nuances that are lost for which overall I like better the studio version. Also, I wouldn't really say there's an over-saturation of live albums Floyd related, and I enjoy them all for their different reasons. Of course, David Gilmour in Concert is perhaps the most unique of this live albums, and has some great versions from most songs.
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Posted: November 16 2013 at 20:38 |
Personally, I think one ought to get On an Island before getting the live Gdansk. With Gdansk, one gets umpeenth versions of DSOFTM tracks played live, yet another rendition of Comfortably Numb and High Hopes, and an okay (albeit over-rated) version of Echoes that of course doesn't come close to equaling the original version nor the live version heard on Live at Pompeii.
With an over-saturation of live discs (Delicate Sound of Thunder, Pulse, Is There Anybody Out There, In the Flesh, Remember That Night, Live at Gdansk), the one I quite like is David Gilmour in Concert, with acoustic renditions of Shine On and other tracks.
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Posted: November 14 2013 at 23:29 |
there are not female backing vocals on this one, so some of the Floyd songs may sound a bit better because of that.
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Posted: November 14 2013 at 23:25 |
Awesome news and a great interview with Graham Nash. It is incredible how he stresses he and Crosby don't get paid a cent for playing with Don Felder, John Mayer, Dave Gilmour etc. They are ' musicians'......must be very rich ones at that
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Posted: November 14 2013 at 23:12 |
Oh yeah, and it's great that this new album is truly confirmed... thanks for the link. Indeed, it will be great to see new Waters and Gilmour in one or two years (I guess). I wonder who will make a better album.
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