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    Posted: February 15 2013 at 04:51
you should really try out some krautrock, progmetaller! great genre with so many fantastic bands
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2013 at 03:22
"Tanz der Lemminge" is from 1971. If you are curious about that track go here:


That was only an example, by the way; I could have mentioned many other tracks by other artists.

How about "Vergegenwärtigung" by Popol Vuh (1976)? Go to the 19:40 mark for that track; it ends at 36:27.


Or "Atem" by Tangerine Dream (1973)?









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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2013 at 02:28
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by bytor2112 bytor2112 wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:




Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

am I the only one that loves Moonchild?

nobody loves Moonchild Sleepy
I love Moonchild, and all of it. Anyone who thinks the instrumental section is pointless noodling or boring has not really been listening to it. Every line of the lyrics is expressed in that instrumental part. Just one example: "Playing hide and seek with the ghosts of dawn" from 9:41 to 10:19. Now go and spot the other lines.
Clap  yeah, you hit it right on the nail there, I've heard it about a million times and it's Sleepy



Why did you bother listening to it that much if you find it so boring?


'I do remember Giles drumming, it took hours and hours by the time I was done with it, I was so involved I didn't know what to think I listened to it for days and days playing little games like not listening to it for a whole day and then listening to it  to see if I still dislike it, I DID!!! the more I listen to it, the more I dislike it. I do think it's bad that fact is, no matter how closely I studied it, no matter how I take it apart, no matter how I'll break it down i t remains consistent, I wish you were here to HEAR IT!! LOL

On a serious note, to see what is the deal there?really that's why I listened to it that much I can honestly say that Michael's playing is the only interesting thing about it

I take it you don't like much early Krautrock either because there are often passages or sometimes whole tracks in it which are quite similar to "Moonchild". Example: "The Marilyn Monroe Memorial Church" from "Tanz der Lemminge" by Amon Düül 2.


I'm not really familiar with Krautrock to be honest but I'll take a listen, I just don't like Moonchild.Can I ask what year these tracks were made?
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Ignorance is strength.”

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2013 at 01:24
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by bytor2112 bytor2112 wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:




Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

am I the only one that loves Moonchild?

nobody loves Moonchild Sleepy
I love Moonchild, and all of it. Anyone who thinks the instrumental section is pointless noodling or boring has not really been listening to it. Every line of the lyrics is expressed in that instrumental part. Just one example: "Playing hide and seek with the ghosts of dawn" from 9:41 to 10:19. Now go and spot the other lines.
Clap  yeah, you hit it right on the nail there, I've heard it about a million times and it's Sleepy



Why did you bother listening to it that much if you find it so boring?


'I do remember Giles drumming, it took hours and hours by the time I was done with it, I was so involved I didn't know what to think I listened to it for days and days playing little games like not listening to it for a whole day and then listening to it  to see if I still dislike it, I DID!!! the more I listen to it, the more I dislike it. I do think it's bad that fact is, no matter how closely I studied it, no matter how I take it apart, no matter how I'll break it down i t remains consistent, I wish you were here to HEAR IT!! LOL

On a serious note, to see what is the deal there?really that's why I listened to it that much I can honestly say that Michael's playing is the only interesting thing about it

I take it you don't like much early Krautrock either because there are often passages or sometimes whole tracks in it which are quite similar to "Moonchild". Example: "The Marilyn Monroe Memorial Church" from "Tanz der Lemminge" by Amon Düül 2.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 21:10
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 18:41
Originally posted by bytor2112 bytor2112 wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:




Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

am I the only one that loves Moonchild?

nobody loves Moonchild Sleepy
I love Moonchild, and all of it. Anyone who thinks the instrumental section is pointless noodling or boring has not really been listening to it. Every line of the lyrics is expressed in that instrumental part. Just one example: "Playing hide and seek with the ghosts of dawn" from 9:41 to 10:19. Now go and spot the other lines.
Clap  yeah, you hit it right on the nail there, I've heard it about a million times and it's Sleepy



Why did you bother listening to it that much if you find it so boring?


'I do remember Giles drumming, it took hours and hours by the time I was done with it, I was so involved I didn't know what to think I listened to it for days and days playing little games like not listening to it for a whole day and then listening to it  to see if I still dislike it, I DID!!! the more I listen to it, the more I dislike it. I do think it's bad that fact is, no matter how closely I studied it, no matter how I take it apart, no matter how I'll break it down i t remains consistent, I wish you were here to HEAR IT!! LOL

On a serious note, to see what is the deal there?really that's why I listened to it that much I can honestly say that Michael's playing is the only interesting thing about it


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 18:42
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Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 18:23
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:




Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

am I the only one that loves Moonchild?

nobody loves Moonchild Sleepy
I love Moonchild, and all of it. Anyone who thinks the instrumental section is pointless noodling or boring has not really been listening to it. Every line of the lyrics is expressed in that instrumental part. Just one example: "Playing hide and seek with the ghosts of dawn" from 9:41 to 10:19. Now go and spot the other lines.
Clap  yeah, you hit it right on the nail there, I've heard it about a million times and it's Sleepy



Why did you bother listening to it that much if you find it so boring?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:36
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

am I the only one that loves Moonchild?


nobody loves Moonchild Sleepy

I love Moonchild, and all of it. Anyone who thinks the instrumental section is pointless noodling or boring has not really been listening to it. Every line of the lyrics is expressed in that instrumental part. Just one example: "Playing hide and seek with the ghosts of dawn" from 9:41 to 10:19. Now go and spot the other lines.


Clap  yeah, you hit it right on the nail there, I've heard it about a million times and it's Sleepy


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 15:37
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Ignorance is strength.”

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:35
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

am I the only one that loves Moonchild?


nobody loves Moonchild Sleepy

I love Moonchild, and all of it. Anyone who thinks the instrumental section is pointless noodling or boring has not really been listening to it. Every line of the lyrics is expressed in that instrumental part. Just one example: "Playing hide and seek with the ghosts of dawn" from 9:41 to 10:19. Now go and spot the other lines.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:27
Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Pure quality-wise, it cannot. But I don't care for objective quality when I'm listening to music. I'm sorry if I broke some sacred rule not to compare Providence to CttE tracks, but I can't help it.


you didn't break anything it's just a ludicrous opinion
I know I didn't. Maybe ludicrous, but still an opinion, and still as valid as anyone else's opinion.


I agree
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:26
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Pure quality-wise, it cannot. But I don't care for objective quality when I'm listening to music. I'm sorry if I broke some sacred rule not to compare Providence to CttE tracks, but I can't help it.


you didn't break anything it's just a ludicrous opinion
I know I didn't. Maybe ludicrous, but still an opinion, and still as valid as anyone else's opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:24
Love both albums, obviously, but Starless is one of my all-time favorite prog epics, and I just love the rest of the songs on it (well, Providence a bit less). So Red it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:24
Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Pure quality-wise, it cannot. But I don't care for objective quality when I'm listening to music. I'm sorry if I broke some sacred rule not to compare Providence to CttE tracks, but I can't help it.


you didn't break anything it's just a ludicrous opinion
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:22
Pure quality-wise, it cannot. But I don't care for objective quality when I'm listening to music. I'm sorry if I broke some sacred rule not to compare Providence to CttE tracks, but I can't help it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:15
Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

am I the only one that loves Moonchild?


nobody loves Moonchild Sleepy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:14
^ ... and as I much as I like "Providence", there's no way it could perform as a giant-slayer to all three tracks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:05
Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Providence is a monster, and is imo better than any CttE tracks, in the context of the album or out of it.

Ballsy. Very... ballsy. 
Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:04
Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Providence is a monster, and is imo better than any CttE tracks, in the context of the album or out of it.

 
Clap it sure is a monster  LOL


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 15:06
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 11:07
It is a difficult poll. I love Red, but I do think that Providence is about the weakest of the KC improv pieces (I love Moonchild). CTTE is nigh on perfect, so that gets the vote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2013 at 10:18
A really hard poll but I have to vote for CTTE.
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