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rogerthat
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Topic: Final Beatles Poll Posted: October 08 2011 at 23:53 |
Alitare wrote:
I've changed a lot, musically. Used to be Megadeth, AC/DC, The Eagles, Van Halen, Metallica, and Def Leppard. Now it's The Beatles, Tom Waits, Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan, maudlin of the Well, and Pink Floyd.
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I guess it's something to do with our generation...that we get initiated into bands like the first mentioned and then get around to something more like that next bunch. Although...Beatles was my first exposure to Western music and I got to Pink Floyd very early, so my hard rock/metal 'phase' too was not as long as for some others. But I only decided to seriously listen to Stevie Wonder because a musician friend who again likes bands from both those bunches highly recommended I should. I felt stupid for having ignored him for a long time. It's equally hard to get friends to listen to S Wonder because they have pre conceived notions about what ballads should and should not have, and keyboards are not too high up on that list (long guitar solos are preferable).
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 08 2011 at 21:25 |
jammun wrote:
Official count:Please Please Me: 7 songs With The Beatles: 8 songs A Hard Day's Night: 13 songs Beatles For Sale: 8 songs Help: 12 songs Rubber Soul: 14 songs Revolver: 14 songs Sgt: 13 songs MMT: 11 songs White Album: 30 songs! Abbey Road: 17 songs Let It Be: 11 songs
I don't count Yellow Submarine because that's how I am. Give 'em another 10. We get wha? Close to 150. |
Why not? It was a halfanalbum. The classical pieces weren't technically Beatles songs but the album would have been better as a mix rather than a segregation IMHO.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 08 2011 at 21:15 |
I believe that Abbey Road is not only the best album in the list, but the best Beatles release by far.
I don't count it as having 17 songs, always counted the 8 tracks between "Because" and "The End" are really a multi-part epic that The Beatles sold as a individual tracks to avoid the risk of an almost 18 minutes minutes suite (As Pete Townshend did), being that their success was based in short songs.
Iván
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jammun
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Posted: October 08 2011 at 21:03 |
Alitare wrote:
I've changed a lot, musically. Used to be Megadeth, AC/DC, The Eagles, Van Halen, Metallica, and Def Leppard. Now it's The Beatles, Tom Waits, Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan, maudlin of the Well, and Pink Floyd.
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This is good to hear. Beatles, Waits, Dylan, Wonder. It's all remarkable music.
I remember when one of my roommates showed up with Stevie's Music of My Mind back around 1973. We laughed and thought he (roommate) no longer had credibility and had lost his mind. We then learned to change our own minds. He went on to do extensive synth programming for Stevie. I would like to think that this site would teach all of us...do not be close-minded. Unless it involves Passion Play, in which case we're welcome to hurl stones.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Alitare
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Posted: October 08 2011 at 19:53 |
I've changed a lot, musically. Used to be Megadeth, AC/DC, The Eagles, Van Halen, Metallica, and Def Leppard. Now it's The Beatles, Tom Waits, Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan, maudlin of the Well, and Pink Floyd.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: October 08 2011 at 19:37 |
Alitare wrote:
Abbey Road - one of the greatest albums in the history of mankind. Side one is a string of hits of unimaginable proportions, and side two is a labyrinth of ideas. White album was lovely, but much too sprawling, and Sgt. Pepper was a tad limited in select areas, even if it was their most concise. Revolver was too primitive for me, and Let it Be was...well, they could've put more effort into it is all I'm saying. But Abbey Road, boy! That's one for the ages.
Although, for me, pretty much every Beatles album from 1965-1970 is essential. I've changed a lot in the past two years or so. Used to hate them. |
Never thought I'd live to see you post something like that Alitaire. Inestimable kudos to you
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Alitare
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Posted: October 08 2011 at 19:24 |
What about all the solo works, too? Harrison, Lennon, McCartney, Ringo (i guess); would these be counted? I mean, Plastic Ono Band, All Things Must Pass, Band on the Run, Imagine, Ram, and (what? Choose Love? Golly!) Are all integral works in the Beatles/post-Beatles canon.
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jammun
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Posted: October 08 2011 at 19:03 |
Official count: Please Please Me: 7 songs With The Beatles: 8 songs A Hard Day's Night: 13 songs Beatles For Sale: 8 songs Help: 12 songs Rubber Soul: 14 songs Revolver: 14 songs Sgt: 13 songs MMT: 11 songs White Album: 30 songs! Abbey Road: 17 songs Let It Be: 11 songs
I don't count Yellow Submarine because that's how I am. Give 'em another 10. We get wha? Close to 150.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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earlyprog
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Posted: October 08 2011 at 08:34 |
Add another 20 or so songs if you take those they wrote for others into consideration.
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thehallway
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Posted: October 08 2011 at 02:58 |
jammun wrote:
Maybe 100-150. If you remove those they did not write from the total, it'd be somewhat less. |
I think it's more like 200, even without the non-originals.
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Alitare
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Posted: October 07 2011 at 19:42 |
John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band was amazing - I prefer it over Imagine.
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jammun
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Posted: October 07 2011 at 19:25 |
Maybe 100-150. If you remove those they did not write from the total, it'd be somewhat less.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 07 2011 at 11:21 |
How many songs are we talking about? I don't have all their albums so I can't pull up the number on my computer's player.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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thehallway
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Posted: October 07 2011 at 09:52 |
So Abbey Road is the winner! \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/ ____/\_____/\______/\_____/\_____ (< the Beatles celebrating).
Now to do a poll containing every single Beatles song........
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Bosh66
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Posted: October 07 2011 at 05:51 |
Abbey Road - the obvious winner here, although Revolver is also a decent enough candidate. A Hard Day's Night is a great little rock and roll record, but was never going to win on a site like this.
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Chris S
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Posted: October 06 2011 at 16:32 |
All good but the best is....... All Things Must Pass...... by George Harrison
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thehallway
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Posted: October 06 2011 at 15:49 |
Uh oh....
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 06 2011 at 11:31 |
Abbey Road, no doubt. Absolutely great stuff on that album.
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: October 06 2011 at 08:36 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Of the three, had to go with Abbey Road, ... I still think The White Album is the best though! |
Agreed.
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jammun
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Posted: October 05 2011 at 22:07 |
For everyone who voted for any of these, please please me and go listen to that Beatles version of Baby It's You.
If you want to hear the real brilliance.
It's a raw band, but it's all there. I don't even know if Ringo can play drums at this point in the timeline. Listen to the beat, listen to the guitars, listen to the vocals. 1963. Just WASTING any comers. Just WASTING. Freaking bar band that's been playing this stuff for years, and figured out how it should really be done.
Go listen to With.... Ignore everything except Hold Me Tight. The beat, the vocals, the stunning guitar underpinnings. Go listen to a Lesley Gore song from the era. sh*t, listen to You Really Got a Hold On Me, hey been done already. Yeah?
The later stuff will get the prog vote. Do not dismiss the early songs. Glad to see Hard Days Night made it to the finals. Anytime At All do you hear those piano chords solidifying the bottom end? Maybe that's just George Martin, I dunno. C'mon, out' my way. What a fine rock band! Get all sophisticated later, but this was a pure rock band that could and did just waste the competition.
Sorry I get emotional...
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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