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richardh 
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 15:22 |
Danger Money
...accused of sounding like ELP , the response was ''Well ELP are no longer around ,we are''  |
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Cristi
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 13:05 |
their debut album. Amazing! 
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Moogtron III
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 11:44 |
Very difficult choice. I'm crazy about Danger Money's title track, Rendez-Vous 6:02 and Carrying No Cross: I think they are pretty sensational. I think the rest of the album is good, but not as good as the three tracks I mentioned. When I heard Danger Money for the first time, I was completely floored by it from the first, powerful, complex chords on. That was an amazing experience. Come to think of it, I was just beginning to buy prog albums, and I bought a cassette of Danger Money, Genesis' Foxtrot and Alan Parsons' debut in one buy for 10 Dutch guilders, which is about €4,50
 . Foxtrot and Danger Money especially made an incredible impression on me.
As for the UK debut: I discovered it later, some time after I bought UK's live album Night After Night. In the beginning I was a bit disappointed by the debut, because the tracks that were also on Night After Night sounded much more mechanical on the debut than the live versions. I also had to grow in appreciating jazz rock. I'm still not a big jazz rock fan, but I learned to appreciate Canterbury a lot, and Bruford's and Allan Holdsworth's albums, and the UK debut album also grew on me, immensely. These days I would say that I like the debut even more than Danger Money, but my favorite UK tracks are still the ones I mentioned at the beginning of my post.
So: favorite UK album: UK (debut)
Favorite UK tracks though: Danger Money, Rendez-Vous 6:02 and Carrying No Cross.
Edited by Moogtron III - December 19 2010 at 11:49
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:38 |
 Gandalff wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
The first album for me, the second one is certainly weaker. |
It certainly isn't. |
It ´s certainly a matter of opinion. |
No. It's fact. It is not weaker. You may not like it as much. But that doesn't mean it's weaker.  |
You´ve probably overlooked the phrase "for me". |
I thought the "for me" applied to the first album rather than the second.
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Gandalff
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:33 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
The first album for me, the second one is certainly weaker. |
It certainly isn't. |
It ´s certainly a matter of opinion. |
No. It's fact. It is not weaker. You may not like it as much. But that doesn't mean it's weaker. |
You´ve probably overlooked the phrase "for me".
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:25 |
Gandalff wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
The first album for me, the second one is certainly weaker. |
It certainly isn't. |
It ´s certainly a matter of opinion. |
No. It's fact. It is not weaker. You may not like it as much. But that doesn't mean it's weaker.
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Gandalff
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:23 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
The first album for me, the second one is certainly weaker. |
It certainly isn't. |
It ´s certainly a matter of opinion.
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:17 |
Gandalff wrote:
The first album for me, the second one is certainly weaker. |
It certainly isn't.
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Gandalff
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:13 |
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The first album for me, the second one is certainly weaker.
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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yanch
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:09 |
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I prefer their first album, mostly because of Alan Holdsworth's guitar playing.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 05:34 |
^^Beware....deranged impressionist! 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 19 2010 at 05:33 |
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Missed this first version. Danger Monet.
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Posted: June 01 2010 at 18:45 |
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The debut. Holdsworth's subtlety is the difference.
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Posted: June 01 2010 at 02:44 |
I love both but I prefer Danger Money. As Ivan said, this is the more symphonic of the two and the absence of Holdsworth gives Jobson even more room to shine, and prove just what a phenomenal keyboard player he is.
Also, Bozzio's contribution is stunning. I prefer him to Bruford easily.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 31 2010 at 20:43 |
UK
I enjoy Danger Money, which is certainly a strong album, just their debut is probably the definition of sublime.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
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Posted: May 31 2010 at 20:10 |
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Oh man, it's way to hard to decide. I love them both and find them both essential for different reasons. The only regret I have about UK is that they didn't make another 20 albums. I love the debut album for the free style feel and I love Danger Money for the concise feel. I'm sorry, but I can't vote here, they are both amazing albums.
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omri
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Posted: May 30 2010 at 10:21 |
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It's very close (not only in results but also in my heart). I prefer the debut by a very small gap.
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 12:35 |
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U.K debut for me. Great album and great lineup.
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friso
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 07:54 |
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Danger Money is better IMHO.
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b_olariu
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 07:41 |
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Danger Money without hesitation, one of my fav albums ever aswell . I simply love this album to the max, great stuff.
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