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    Posted: November 13 2008 at 14:13
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:


I completely agree about Genesis Live with more live tracks with Gabriel!! I want to hear Supper's Ready live with GABRIEL!!!
 
Then purchase the 19671975 4 cd box set the disc 3 have a superb live version of Supper's Ready.Wink




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Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:


Originally posted by genesisfn genesisfn wrote:

Awsome!
Why is SECONDS Out excluded?
The Hi Rez mixing & mastering would increase the Dynamic Range & make this gem a sonic masterpiece.
I agree that Seconds Out should also be included in one of these box sets... but not this one. Seconds Out is a release from 1977 (recorded on the Wind & Wuthering Tour without Gabriel), so if it had been included in a box, it would have been 1976-1982 (the first one released, I believe). This box set could have benefited from a remixed Genesis Live (from 1973). Maybe they could have even added in some "lost" recordings from the same show, especially "Supper's Ready"! AngryWho knows though, maybe the live albums will get the box set treatments as separate/independent releases.... maybe even a (mini) box of just live stuff?!


I completely agree about Genesis Live with more live tracks with Gabriel!! I want to hear Supper's Ready live with GABRIEL!!!


Then you should get Genesis Archive 1967-75. Lots of live goodies.
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Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:


Originally posted by genesisfn genesisfn wrote:

Awsome!
Why is SECONDS Out excluded?
The Hi Rez mixing & mastering would increase the Dynamic Range & make this gem a sonic masterpiece.
I agree that Seconds Out should also be included in one of these box sets... but not this one. Seconds Out is a release from 1977 (recorded on the Wind & Wuthering Tour without Gabriel), so if it had been included in a box, it would have been 1976-1982 (the first one released, I believe). This box set could have benefited from a remixed Genesis Live (from 1973). Maybe they could have even added in some "lost" recordings from the same show, especially "Supper's Ready"! AngryWho knows though, maybe the live albums will get the box set treatments as separate/independent releases.... maybe even a (mini) box of just live stuff?!


I completely agree about Genesis Live with more live tracks with Gabriel!! I want to hear Supper's Ready live with GABRIEL!!!
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Wonder if FYE will carry the new Genesis box set?
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The thing I'm getting most excited about, apart from at last having the 'lost' Genesis Plays Jackson stuff, is the fact that the albums have been painstakingly remixed/remastered in 5.1 Surround Sound. If they sound as good as the recent Trick of the Tail  5.1 remastering job (which sounds truly magnificent) I will be in seventh heaven.
 
Should've used the classic Paul Whitehead lettering on the box though, instead of the Collins-era We Can't Dance lettering - never mind!
 
 
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 10:48
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

These guys really need to get their act together and put out some new prog.  Have they not got the memo?  Prog is back and in force.  But then, they've already made tons of money going commercial.  Perhaps they are no longer in it for just the money?


I don't think they went "commercial" purely for the money, though obviously it didn't hurt.

Phil Collins just plain doesn't like "prog" music.  Period.
 
Well for the record i'll said that the put well crafted songs in his POP music period, at least better than other horrible POP groups.
 
 
 
 
 




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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

These guys really need to get their act together and put out some new prog.  Have they not got the memo?  Prog is back and in force.  But then, they've already made tons of money going commercial.  Perhaps they are no longer in it for just the money?


I don't think they went "commercial" purely for the money, though obviously it didn't hurt.

Phil Collins just plain doesn't like "prog" music.  Period.
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Can`t really get too excited aboout this band anymore. They`ve just did too much damage to themselves.For me they sold out. I will admit though that occasionally I`l throw one of their pre- LLDOB albums on the turntable close my eyes and pretend that all the commercial garbage never happened.
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These guys really need to get their act together and put out some new prog.  Have they not got the memo?  Prog is back and in force.  But then, they've already made tons of money going commercial.  Perhaps they are no longer in it for just the money?
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@Walker: that would be great, thanks !
@JIF8882: I still don't have all of them, this could be a good opportunity
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Points: 85 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 06:43
It's only the studio albums being remixed
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Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

SACD/DVD in Europ, CD/DVD in North America. Are we being forced to buy SACD players over here???
 
I believe they will be dual-layer SACD's with a CD layer as well as an SACD Surround Sound mix, so it will play in any CD player.
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SACD/DVD in Europ, CD/DVD in North America. Are we being forced to buy SACD players over here???
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Especially Trespass, as it wasn't remastered in '94 like the others were
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It's a must despite the expense.Thumbs%20Up
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The set includes five albums - TRESPASS, NURSERY CRYME, FOXTROT, SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND and THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY, plus an extra disc with EXTRAS 1970-1975, a newly assembled compilation only available with this collection.

5 CLASSIC GENESIS ALBUMS
Deluxe Editions Of Each Album As CD + DVD 2-Disc Sets (but shouldn't The Lamb be two CD's + one DVD?)
Each CD Features a New Stereo Mix
Each DVD Contains a New 5.1 Surround Sound Mix 
Video Content Includes Over 6 Hours of Rare Live Concert Footage  ClapClapClap
Newly Filmed Interviews with the Band, and TV Appearances

 
Box Set Exclusive Bonus:
"Extra Tracks 1970-1975". A Collection of B-Sides and Rare Tracks.
 A CD+DVD Set, Also in Newly Mixed Stereo and 5.1 Surround
 
 
If anyone has more detailed info about the extras please post it here!
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Originally posted by Walker Walker wrote:

What are the "Genesis play Jackson" songs? I am not familiar with these.
 


Interesting that you should ask, here's the fan club e-mail that I received today:

Following on from the massive success of the Genesis DVD 'When In Rome,' which topped the music DVD chart for 3 consecutive weeks, the box set 'Genesis: 1970 - 1975' contains the five studio albums from 'Trespass' to 'The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway' plus an extras disc full of rarities including Genesis Plays Jackson, an aborted soundtrack project for a BBC Art film on the work of painter Michael Jackson.

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Originally posted by twostikks twostikks wrote:

I would think the live material would make a perfect 4th box.   "Genesis Live" (with the other Rainbow tracks included on the 1st Archive Box, maybe resequenced;   Seconds Out (with any extra material),  3 Sides Live (with any extra material!),  Live tracks from the Mama and Invisible Touch tours, and then I imagine they'd include "The Long and The Shorts" from the We Can't Dance era (although I think I could handle it if some of that wasn't included).

Yeah that would be nice!! i have recently hear Zurich 77 with an amazing quality!!!! and a very good version of It's yourself.
 
 
Damn, that box would be a TON of material.  But it would be great to have an expanded "Seconds Out"!
 
Yeah lots of material or live archives would be great!!!!!
 
Come to think of it, they could probably release 2 "LIVE" Box sets;  1st one with everything including Hackett, 2nd one post-Hackett.  That would work for me.
 
Of course i second that!!!Big%20smile
 




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Originally posted by arcer arcer wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

It'll be interesting to hear what the earlier albums sound like. I have heard a new remaster of Cinema Show and it sounds pretty good. I already have a remaster of TLLDOB though, this would be my third copy.


To clear up a few things: this sequence of reissues features REMIXES of the albums, not simply remasters. The members of Genesis and engineer Nick Davis went back to the original master tapes and remixed the tracks to take advantage of modern technologies.

Once these are released the old '90s so-called Definitive Remasters will cease to exist as these new mixes will supercede them. Thus these are effectively 'different' albums.

How much different the first bunch of albums will be remains to be seen. With the later albums, all recorded on 16 track or more, it was a relatively simple task to revisit the tracks. Not so with the 1970-75 set as these were recorded on sometimes 8-track recorders with the tracks 'bounced down' to create more space on the multi-track to give more tracks. Therefore you might get a guitar and a synth line recorded on two seprarate track and then re-recorded onto a third, freeing up the first two to be wiped and used for new tracks. In this way you cannot revisit individual tracks and clean them up or reEQ them because you get what you get. Apparently it was a tricky process with the 70-75 set.

Also someone else was enquiring why the DVD discs timing are the same as the CD. This is because the new sets come (wonderfully) in a variety of formats. The CD also carried an SACD layer and the DVD is a DVD Audio disc that also carries the bonus DVD Video material. Nice to see Genesis supporting audiophile formats (even if they are now largely obsolete). If you do have a home DVD player, some allow you play DVD-A or SACD discs. Give it a whjirl through your amp, the res is higher and should provide more detail, air and space than standard rubbish Red Book CD.

Me, I can't wait for these discs. The 76-82 set sounds awesome.
 
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