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LinusW 
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 13:38 |
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Crime Of The Century for me. Even though I like Dreamer for what it is, it just doesn't reach the same level as the other songs.
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Zoso-
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 13:28 |
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not to say that they're bad.. I very much enjoy their albums, they're lacking in the songwriting department is all (I think)
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JLocke
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 13:13 |
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^ Agreed.
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 13:06 |
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most volta, and dream theater imo
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martinprog77
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 06:11 |
for me is 'space revolver'' by the flower kings.
You Don't Know What You've Got is the worst song of the flower kings.
BTW some people don't like Chicken Farmer Song ,i love the happy feeling on it  |
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Nothing can last
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Always live for today.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 05:33 |
 prog-chick wrote:
^ got to agree here, "Love Song" is a classic! |
It's not very Prog, though 
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Wilcey
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 04:37 |
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^ got to agree here, "Love Song" is a classic!
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 23:45 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Twelfth Night's "Fact and Fiction".
If it wasn't for the abominable "Love Song", that album would never leave my top 10. or 20. 30, possibly...
Astonishing and hugely original 1980s Prog album otherwise. |
I like Love Song.
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 22:46 |
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still love it to death but Amputechture because of El Ciervo Vulnerado and one section in Tetragrammaton where it's slow and major key. Got nothing against major key but that section's annoying (oddly enough it wasn't live for some reason)
otherwise flawless album
/drool
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 21:35 |
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I really would have liked Opeth's latest release, "Watershed" if it weren't for those slightly awkwardly done experimental transtition passages in between songs and sometimes in the middle of the songs. Otherwise I found the album to be a pretty enjoyable Opeth album but something about some of the transitions (like that weird acoustic guitar passage where the guitar progressively tunes down.) didn't work out for me.
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JLocke
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 20:40 |
Well, I dissagree with the folkes on here who think Lateralus was flawed. But hey, I'm a fanboy through and through, and I admit it, so from a casual Tool fan's perspective, I may be able to see your point.
However, for me, it was probably CttE. Please don't crucify me, people, I just think that the title track went on for too long and killed the record somewhat. The other two tracks on the album are flawless, however.
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 13:42 |
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Probably Tarkus , and I am not talking about the music.Such an album needed a much better cover and inner sleeve. But I consider it a masterpiece anyway.
Another case could be Fragile , it's lack of cohesiveness makes it a 3 star record to me.Or TAAB , it has a gap in the 25 th to yhe 27 th minute when it feels like the guys wonder: Well what do we do now? |
WHAT ? No i Love that good old Tarkus Cover  Bloody damn Fine Album to
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 13:38 |
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I totally agree with Tales. Had all songs been stripped down to 10-15 min, the album would be pretty much perfect!
And if Takk... by Sigur Ros had maybe 10 min less of music I would probably like it a lot more.. but then again, Im such a sucker for short albums
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Posted: August 19 2008 at 05:55 |
Twelfth Night's "Fact and Fiction".
If it wasn't for the abominable "Love Song", that album would never leave my top 10. or 20. 30, possibly...
Astonishing and hugely original 1980s Prog album otherwise.
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 23:39 |
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Green Carnation's "Acoustic Verses" ... I absolutely love the album till the last track "Head Above Water" ... just misses for me, don't care for repetitive choruses to begin with, but I don't like how he sings it either. I'm slowly getting accustomed to it, but ruined a great, great album for me.
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 22:46 |
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sleeper wrote:
Pain of Salvations BE would be an undisputed modern clasic if they had cut out some of the narative parts that served lttle purpose, particularly Animae Partus that opens and closes the album and Omni.
Lateralus with out the noisy interludes between songs would have been unberlievable.
Maudlin of the Wells Bath without the uneccassery inclusion of Uncovering the Gift, or at least re-recording that song rather than leaving it in its garage recording form from 1996.
The Last Rose of Summer on White Willows Sacrament needed more acumpniment than and acoustic guitar.
The Wall shortened by half.
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I don't get the Lateralus hate here. I mean, there's only 3 tracks. Eon Blue Apocalypse is beautiful and goes great into the Patient. Mantra is only a minute long, and Faaip de Oiad is noise but it's the last track so you don't have to really listen to it. Unless you're listening to the alternate tracklist.
I guess I'd have to go with Bedlam in Goliath. I guess a concept album about an Ouija board is pretty interesting, and I was just getting into the Mars Volta music. It came out around my birthday so I got it and although I'd heard "Goliath" and thought it was just fantastic, the rest of it seemed like noise. I hardly ever get distracted by crappy lyrics, and I definetely thought the BIG lyrics were distracting.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 09:35 |
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PAWN HEARTS comes first in mind; great songs, great musical athmosphere, even some great vocals (Man Erg).....only destroyed by unnecessary chaotic noise in between
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Not only you! Me too. Yeah the noisy stuff on The Lighthouse.. and Lemmings are really unnecessary.
Jesus Christ Superstar taking out the HORRIBLE(with the scary mean) Crucifixion. DAMN! that song scares me to hell! Very daring and "sentimental". The album in it's entirety really touches you, if you know what I'm talking about...
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Posted: August 15 2008 at 19:22 |
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Flower Kings' "Stardust We Are" would have been a masterpiece if they'd only kept it at one disc instead of two. The title song is so amazing but the rest of the tunes are just so-so. There's more than enough greatness on there to make one single astounding album but they just got overindulgent. |
Even with Church of the Heart and Compassion as well as a couple other gems, you are right, a little trimmed fat would have catapulted this already excellent album into eternity.
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Posted: August 15 2008 at 09:36 |
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Fates Warning's Awaken the Guardian. In theory I should find it the greatest thing since sliced bread, in practice it only has three songs (out of eight, mind you) that don't put me to sleep.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: August 15 2008 at 08:37 |
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I agree about The Wall deserving truncation.
Colosseum II's Strange New Flesh could have hit the mark perfectly if it weren't for some of the Moore backing vocals, and a couple of over-stretches on the guitar.
Relayer, in my mind, had way more potential than it used, and could have done with a little more in the lyrical interest department.
McDonald And Giles has a couple of more vulnerable sections on the Birdman Suite that mar an otherwise briliant album.
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