the most technically impressive song?

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9i_gH2ZU7_s

Edited by Rorro - February 04 2008 at 13:31

Visitor13 wrote: BaldFriede wrote: Contrary to what some people believe, technicality is more than just "speed". There also is a kind of "uncertainty principle" in music, which is somewhat like this: expression * speed <= t, with t being a kind of technicality constant like the Planck constant or the speed of light in physics. The faster you play, the less expression you have, and vice versa. Technicality has aspects of both, not just speed. Which brings us to the most expressive player ever  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MI-_jWAmlE

holy shyt!

fuxi wrote: What's the use of technique without emotion?

Exactly!! When guitar playing is a technical display it can be really boring as with operatic singing. Pete Townsend was quite rough but evocative. Steve Howe's techncal excellence is presented as part of the whole Yes package. Roy Buchanan is another guitarist that combines technique and emotion.

BaldFriede wrote: Contrary to what some people believe, technicality is more than just "speed". There also is a kind of "uncertainty principle" in music, which is somewhat like this: expression * speed <= t, with t being a kind of technicality constant like the Planck constant or the speed of light in physics. The faster you play, the less expression you have, and vice versa. Technicality has aspects of both, not just speed.

Which brings us to the most expressive player ever 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MI-_jWAmlE

If I have one great prog failing it's that brilliant, precise and academic musicianship is often lost on me; after a musician establishes themselves as flexible or interesting, I find it difficult to decide between them based on accomplishment or skill and frequently discount their improvisational skill altogether. *wonders whether any other forum posters think like this*

So, I'll pick a song for a different reason: Henry Cow's "Beautiful as the Moon; Terrible as an Army with Banners" is the track that I find the most evidence of painstakingly studious and technical WRITING I've yet to hear in progressive music - whatever the truth about its composition may be, I find it difficult to believe that they just thrashed it out together in the studio because - to use a silly cliche - there isn't a note out of place. I have to imagine they scored it out professionally. As a consequence, it's my favourite song as of right now. Go listen to it if you'd like to hear what I mean. =)


Edited by laplace - January 24 2008 at 17:10

Any live version of The Gates Of Delirium.

Easy Money wrote: mmmmmmm ... baseball Yeah the "tech" and "soul" issue is interesting. When I was young older jazz guys I knew would complain about McLaughlin's playing and I understand what they mean now, but to me McLaughlin does have soul. Not deep soul like Pete Cosey, Peter Green or Hendrix but still it doesn't sound cold to me, that is except for a lot of things he did past the early 80s. In other words a lot of his earlier stuff did have some soul, and some of his later stuff too. I'm sure there are a lot who would disagree.

His playing has cosmic soul dude, R&B guys can't even touch it

Easy Money wrote: micky wrote: Peter wrote: steve j wrote: I have just speed read this thread, and realise I don't know anything about music.     Do you have working ears? A brain? A heartbeat? Do you know what you like? Can you feel differing amounts of pleasure and displeasure when you listen to music?   If so, then you do "know" things about music, and qualify to listen to it (and, yes, even share opinions on it here). damn right Peter....  I couldn't paint my way out of a paper bag.. .but sure as hell can tell a great painting from one that is not. It's in the mind.. and the heart... it isn't mathematics.. and neither is music.  Though some  prog brownshirts will tell try to you that it is... The Prog Brownshirts. Yeah that sounds like a cool band, what kind of music do they play?

ahhhhh.....

*Easy Money winds up... and throws a hanging curve right over the heart of the plate

micky licks his lips.. and swings..... CRACK.....

Ball flies about 450ft and spashes down in 'Maxime Roy Cove'....*


prog metal of course   all technical mastery.. and no 'soul'

King Crimson776 wrote: stonebeard wrote: "In the Name of God" by Dream Theater or many Dragonforce songs I'm going to ignore the Dragonforce part

hey hey wait a minute...Dragonforce songs are so hard that even Dragonforce can't play them

steve j wrote: I have just speed read this thread, and realise I don't know anything about music.