Progressive vs Prog

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Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Oh, stop being arrogant.   Iván

I agree, it's getting absurd.

Oh, stop being arrogant.

raindance2007 wrote:   they may be professional musicians, but they are amatuer song writers because their music doesn't hold my attention.   One question....Do you consider song writters proffesional only if they gather your attention?   Isn't this a bit arrogant, you are talking about modern banda, but you only talk about thr same 5, it's absurd.     Real prog usually catches my attention straight away and it gets better after each listen.   THANKS, you solved the problem of deciding if a band should be added to Prog Archives, we send a copy of the album to you and then you tell us if they gathered your attention straight away, if it does, we add them, if not we don't add them, you should be the rule that we all should follow.   From now on lets send all the new artists to Raindance 2997, and he will decide if they are real prog or not....Buit I'm afraid we  won't be adding bandsat all.   Real Prog, then Anglagard, Par Lindh Project, Deluge Grander, Antton Roolaart are not real Prog artists, so how do we call them...Fake Prog artists??????   But modern prog is boring and gone after the 3rd listen, but usually I get bored after the first listen   How many hundreeds of mdern bands have you listened to say with such emphasis that modern Prog is boring?   For God's sake, what an arrogant!   Iván

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - October 07 2007 at 02:56

Atavachron wrote: I think you mean amateurish...  most of the bands you don't like are probably professionals,  and actually most of rock artists were and are 'amateurs' in that they were unschooled and simply had a good feel for music, prog being the exception.  But they're all pros

raindance2007 wrote: I just don't rate modern music that's all. I find porcupine tree, Tool, Spocks beard, Dream theatre, Flower kings, Opeth quite boring.

I'm not a big fan of those bands either but you're missing the point.. it's not really about personal taste itself, but rather the acceptance of it and learning opportunity it presents. I know many people who have exactly the same criticism of the classic prog bands when compared to the music they consider truly inventive and original

..besides, if you feel strongly enough about it than write some reviews, that's the point of reviewing; to express yourself in an insightful way even if everyone disagrees with your conclusions





Edited by Atavachron - October 06 2007 at 18:32

raindance2007 wrote: [ alot of kids on this site

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - October 06 2007 at 18:06

raindance2007 wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: raindance2007 wrote: [   All the great prog bands were from that era and it died out around 1981. We all know what this music sounds like. 20 years later some new form of music which is almost completely different has been labelled progressive. They should scrap the label. I never liked the name progressive rock anyway. Even back then, it should have been called contemporary rock or something. The true progressive rock was not guitar based and the music was catchy and had staying power. I'd be lucky to find 3 or 4 songs from bands like Tool, Porcupine tree, Flower kings, Dream theatre, Opeth, Spocks beard etc which are catchy, clever and holding as the great prog bands from the past. Those bands are too influenced by mediocre bands from the 80s to be first class prog bands. I'm sure they rate bands like Metallica highly, but I rate Metallica as very average  .    Have you ever listened: Anglagard Par Lindh Project Trespass (Israel) Glass Hammer Karda Estra After Crying Magenta Shadow Circus Magrathea Deluge Grander Just to mention ten in the vein and the level of the pioneers of the 70's. Neo Prog and Prog metal is not everything new in Prog, all this bands play Prog of first class, with lots of keyboards and actually none of them is guitar based..   Sorry man, listen first and then give opinions, not pseudo facts   Iván   anglagard don't come close imo.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: raindance2007 wrote: [   All the great prog bands were from that era and it died out around 1981. We all know what this music sounds like. 20 years later some new form of music which is almost completely different has been labelled progressive. They should scrap the label. I never liked the name progressive rock anyway. Even back then, it should have been called contemporary rock or something. The true progressive rock was not guitar based and the music was catchy and had staying power. I'd be lucky to find 3 or 4 songs from bands like Tool, Porcupine tree, Flower kings, Dream theatre, Opeth, Spocks beard etc which are catchy, clever and holding as the great prog bands from the past. Those bands are too influenced by mediocre bands from the 80s to be first class prog bands. I'm sure they rate bands like Metallica highly, but I rate Metallica as very average  .    Have you ever listened: Anglagard Par Lindh Project Trespass (Israel) Glass Hammer Karda Estra After Crying Magenta Shadow Circus Magrathea Deluge Grander Just to mention ten in the vein and the level of the pioneers of the 70's. Neo Prog and Prog metal is not everything new in Prog, all this bands play Prog of first class, with lots of keyboards and actually none of them is guitar based..   Sorry man, listen first and then give opinions, not pseudo facts   Iván