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Raff 
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 Topic: Band additions; it takes 10 minutes.WITH YOUR HELP
Posted: September 14 2007 at 14:36 |
Well, why waste time writing "as soon as possible" when you can have ASAP?  I suppose you've seen stuff like AFAIK as well... (note: as far as I know)
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The T
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 14:33 |
It's good to see I'm not the only one who from time to time gets confused with .NET :slang" or short english as ASAP (even I knew about this one...  )...
But it's a good way to put the problem in easy words:
with Help = ASAP
withno help = A SAD experience.....
(that was my lamest post ever...)
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glass house
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 11:12 |
I promise you it will be processed ASAP. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. 
It does sound a bit scary.
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cuncuna
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 01:10 |
 Atavachron wrote:
yes.. we will asap you !
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¿You will as soon as possible me?... I just wanted to talk about a band  ... I can see now why people is reluctant to help adding bands... it's damn hard...
Edited by cuncuna - September 14 2007 at 01:12
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kazansky
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 01:09 |
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you'll...smoke him...?
oh
never mind
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 01:04 |
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yes.. we will asap you !
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cuncuna
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 01:00 |
Atavachron wrote:
'As Soon As Possible'
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Ok; thanks, It sounds a bit scary...
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 00:58 |
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'As Soon As Possible'
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cuncuna
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 00:56 |
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Raff
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 00:39 |
cuncuna wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
sorry your experience was disappointing, cuncuna.. it's possible the band was rejected or the team couldn't agree and it was put aside. I can see how frustrating that would be, and you didn't complain either.
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No problem... just a beautiful somewhat RIO band that people will know nothing about. Meanwhile, a less productive band, "Los Jaivas" is listed as the brightest thing with really very little quality albums to offer.
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Cuncuna, could you send some material to me? I'll submit it to the AR team, and we'll see whether they fit in any of the new subgenres. I promise you it will be processed ASAP.
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cuncuna
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 00:36 |
Atavachron wrote:
sorry your experience was disappointing, cuncuna.. it's possible the band was rejected or the team couldn't agree and it was put aside. I can see how frustrating that would be, and you didn't complain either.
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No problem... just a beautiful somewhat RIO band that people will know nothing about. Meanwhile, a less productive band, "Los Jaivas" is listed as the brightest thing with really very little quality albums to offer.
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 00:31 |
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sorry your experience was disappointing, cuncuna.. it's possible the band was rejected or the team couldn't agree and it was put aside. I can see how frustrating that would be, and you didn't complain either.
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cuncuna
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 00:25 |
The T wrote:
Well, it might seem quite audacious for me, the newest collaborator, to be saying this, but anyway, in the few days since I was promoted, I've already noticed two things:
1. It takes some time to add bands, specially obscure bands which you don't know. Now I understand why bands can't just..."get added". People here have to find 30 (at least) minutes on their days to add a band they don't have any info about.
2. It takes 10 MINUTES when someone helps with either the bio, the data, or everything. Some member wanted a metal band added which had already been approved; he sent me the bio, the discography, the links, about 75% of what was needed, and about 95%of the links neccesary to get what was missing. So it took like 10 minutes.
So, for all the members that want to have a band added, well, it takes an eternity without help (well, not that much, but who has 30-60 minutes to spare these days?); it takes 10 MINUTES with help.
So don't complain and act!!   |
Ok... ermh... I sent everything about Chilean band CONGRESO TWICE to two different colaborators on two different years. To help more, I would have to buy an airline ticket to I don't know where to upload the info directly with my pendrive or something like that. Sooo... ¿20 minutes was it?...
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The T
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 00:00 |
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 23:25 |
Kotro wrote:
I am sorry if I insulted any of you hard-working collabs. It was not my intention. I certainly do not want to imply that you, as volunteers, should devote your all life to PA. And I certainly didn't mean you would be able to receive a band submission and add it 30 minutes later. I understand that the procedure requires a lot of double checking, by a lot of people. And how frustrating it can be to have people constantly breething on your shoulder asking "did you add that band yet?".
As some of you might know (although not many, I should expect), I am a bit of a critic when it comes to the fast addition of more known acts whose prog affiliation is sometimes dubious, when older, real prog acts from yesterday and today (some not that unknown at all) are constantly being ignored or left behind, with their addition suspended.
Another thing that, in my outsider perspective, annoys me and causes me to make some irreflected comments is the seemingly preferential treatment some bands and members get. From what I can see (and again, I can accept being completely wrong in this case), some bands who enjoy apreciation by some collabs get added more quickly. An example I recall was when a Collab (I apologise, I don't remember who, nor the topic in which it occured - but I am sure he will say who he is, if he reads this) added Roman Bunka 1-2 weeks after he was sugested in that topic by BaldJean, after telling Jean he/she would personaly see to it regarding that adition. Said and done. It is a bit frustrating for people like me to witness this, after investing some time in compiling a honest triple submission of aknowledged prog acts from my country, following all the band submission rules, and not seeing them added after 9 months.
So, again I apologise if my comments hurt anyone, but my question remains, this time in another tone: do collabs really need 9 months to read 3 Word pages and listen to 5 mp3 files before adding an aknowleged progressive rock act, when in some cases they have proven they can do it in a matter of weeks? |
True, sometimes new suggestions get added before ones who have been waiting. I have been guilty of that too. However, sometimes there are obvious cases, that won't meet any opposition, have all the information available, and can be added quickly. I wish everything was this easy, but a challenge can be fun and educational too.
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 17:27 |
Kotro wrote:
I am sorry if I insulted any of you hard-working collabs.
It was not my intention. I certainly do not want to imply that you, as
volunteers, should devote your all life to PA. And I certainly didn't
mean you would be able to receive a band submission and add it 30
minutes later. I understand that the procedure requires a lot
of double checking, by a lot of people. And how frustrating it can be
to have people constantly breething on your shoulder asking "did you
add that band yet?".
As some of you might know (although not many, I should expect), I
am a bit of a critic when it comes to the fast addition of more
known acts whose prog affiliation is sometimes dubious, when
older, real prog acts from yesterday and today (some not that
unknown at all) are constantly being ignored or left behind, with their
addition suspended.
Another thing that, in my outsider perspective, annoys me and
causes me to make some irreflected comments is the seemingly
preferential treatment some bands and members get. From what I can see
(and again, I can accept being completely wrong in this case), some
bands who enjoy apreciation by some collabs get added more
quickly. An example I recall was when a Collab (I apologise, I
don't remember who, nor the topic in which it occured - but I am sure
he will say who he is, if he reads this) added Roman Bunka 1-2 weeks
after he was sugested in that topic by BaldJean, after telling Jean
he/she would personaly see to it regarding that adition. Said and
done. It is a bit frustrating for people like me to witness
this, after investing some time in compiling a honest triple
submission of aknowledged prog acts from my country, following all
the band submission rules, and not seeing them added after 9
months.
So, again I apologise if my comments hurt anyone, but my question
remains, this time in another tone: do collabs really need 9
months to read 3 Word pages and listen to 5 mp3 files before adding an
aknowleged progressive rock act, when in some cases they have proven
they can do it in a matter of weeks? |
you make very valid points... PM'ing you.
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Kotro
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 17:16 |
I am sorry if I insulted any of you hard-working collabs. It was not my intention. I certainly do not want to imply that you, as volunteers, should devote your all life to PA. And I certainly didn't mean you would be able to receive a band submission and add it 30 minutes later. I understand that the procedure requires a lot of double checking, by a lot of people. And how frustrating it can be to have people constantly breething on your shoulder asking "did you add that band yet?".
As some of you might know (although not many, I should expect), I am a bit of a critic when it comes to the fast addition of more known acts whose prog affiliation is sometimes dubious, when older, real prog acts from yesterday and today (some not that unknown at all) are constantly being ignored or left behind, with their addition suspended.
Another thing that, in my outsider perspective, annoys me and causes me to make some irreflected comments is the seemingly preferential treatment some bands and members get. From what I can see (and again, I can accept being completely wrong in this case), some bands who enjoy apreciation by some collabs get added more quickly. An example I recall was when a Collab (I apologise, I don't remember who, nor the topic in which it occured - but I am sure he will say who he is, if he reads this) added Roman Bunka 1-2 weeks after he was sugested in that topic by BaldJean, after telling Jean he/she would personaly see to it regarding that adition. Said and done. It is a bit frustrating for people like me to witness this, after investing some time in compiling a honest triple submission of aknowledged prog acts from my country, following all the band submission rules, and not seeing them added after 9 months.
So, again I apologise if my comments hurt anyone, but my question remains, this time in another tone: do collabs really need 9 months to read 3 Word pages and listen to 5 mp3 files before adding an aknowleged progressive rock act, when in some cases they have proven they can do it in a matter of weeks?
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bhikkhu
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 14:41 |
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Raff
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 14:28 |
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bhikkhu
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 14:12 |
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Thanks Teo, having someone new to the ranks say this really helps shed some light on what we do. It does take time, and you were quoting time frames for artists you had information for. It's taken a lot longer for ones I've had almost nothing to start with. Sometimes you also have to be patient when waiting for the artists themselves. I am working on one now, and the guy is a busy Lawyer. We have been playing email tag for quite a while.
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