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    Posted: June 15 2021 at 14:55
Love 'em.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2021 at 14:29
I've never bought through bandcamp (other than the more ethereal data transmissions). Bandcamp is a terrific service.

What I did find of Cardiacs on bandcamp for physical copies was linking to alphabet business concern. I like to buy as direct as possible generally with new" product.
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I buy almost everything from Bandcamp - physical or download. It’s always my first port of call. Generally speaking, the only time I don’t buy physical product from Bandcamp is where the band asks (on their Bandcamp page) me to buy it from elsewhere. And, to be fair, a lot of bands are savvy to the fact that Bandcamp is where people first look, and use it almost as advertising for their own website or BigCartel (or similar) store. It’s not uncommon these days to see the download available for sale on Bandcamp, with directions to another website to buy cd or vinyl.

I absolutely love Bandcamp, and the bands and artists I know who use it, do too. I honestly think any band or artist who doesn’t use Bandcamp is doing themselves a disservice.

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Yeah, I wouldn't look to bandcamp for trying to buy phyical copies even though albums can be bought through bandcamp, but not from bandcamp, as one can find seller links, labels and stuff.

Here's a topic on that subject: buying physical albums on bandcamp

I'm one of those who is happy to stream from bandcamp, and likes to listen before buying a physical product (except when it comes to used vinyls).

Hopefully https://abc-mary.myshopify.com/collections/cds helps if interested. I might buy a vinyl (I'm not that big on CDs).

Moving off that topic to a Cardiacs-related thing, I have mentioned this elsewhere, but I love Singin' to God which covers all of Sing to God.

Here is the youtube playlist, done by the person behind it.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOwe-ErrEN0xprxPLEGq-JiQQbuy8cSLs

My favourite from it, but then Dirty Boy is what initially turned me on to Cardiacs:



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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Downloads maybe but I doubt they have physical copies on there.

Doubt all you like, but you’re wrong.


I was referring specifically to bandcamp. 
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One that I've recommended to various people who are more into the Symph side of things, and especially to those into Neo-Prog, is A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window.

There is something quite Neo-Prog about various Cardiacs music to me, without actually being Neo-Prog. Cardiacs opening for Marillion didn't seem that odd to me (and of course one has the punkier Neo-Prog acts which can share something in common with Cardiacs). I also rather associate it with some Rush at times.

Mostly it's a band that under PA definitions could fit Crossover Prog, Eclectic Prog (some Gentle Giant-like similarities and some VdGG qualities) as well as Avant Prog, with some symph thrown in, I'd say, and of course it can get heavy.

I think you can still get the physical products at https://abc-mary.myshopify.com/ Just tell them Jimmy?/ Jim? sent you. My memory is terrible, hopefully someone will now what I'm talking about. I have heard that it can sometimes take a while, but that was sometime ago.

Ah, I spent too long an this and that last part was answered. Was trying to remember a name (Jimmy maybe) and google wasn't helping.

EDIT: Think I just remembered that I'm thinking of is "Where's Jim?" Jim Smith's a guy. Tim's bro.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Downloads maybe but I doubt they have physical copies on there.


They have CD's that you can buy
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Downloads maybe but I doubt they have physical copies on there.

Doubt all you like, but you’re wrong.

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^Downloads maybe but I doubt they have physical copies on there.
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Originally posted by Chaser Chaser wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I've known about this band for years although I've heard very little music by them(only a few tracks on youtube). I think I first heard of them on the old RMP in the late 90's. Anyway, unfortunately all their albums are currently out of print. On top of that the leader of the band, Tim Smith, died last year. They are somewhat legendary in "modern" prog circles but like Gentle Giant and Rush they will more than likely never reform again.


Their albums are readily available from the Cardiacs website cardiacs.net

I've bought several recently and they're reasonably priced with a prompt efficient delivery

Highly recommended and highly recommend Cardiacs - especially Sing to God, which is a classic IMO

Also, as previously mentioned, they are on bandcamp.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I've known about this band for years although I've heard very little music by them(only a few tracks on youtube). I think I first heard of them on the old RMP in the late 90's. Anyway, unfortunately all their albums are currently out of print. On top of that the leader of the band, Tim Smith, died last year. They are somewhat legendary in "modern" prog circles but like Gentle Giant and Rush they will more than likely never reform again.


Their albums are readily available from the Cardiacs website cardiacs.net

I've bought several recently and they're reasonably priced with a prompt efficient delivery

Highly recommended and highly recommend Cardiacs - especially Sing to God, which is a classic IMO
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I've known about this band for years although I've heard very little music by them(only a few tracks on youtube). I think I first heard of them on the old RMP in the late 90's. Anyway, unfortunately all their albums are currently out of print. On top of that the leader of the band, Tim Smith, died last year. They are somewhat legendary in "modern" prog circles but like Gentle Giant and Rush they will more than likely never reform again.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

No mention of Tim Smith yet? Cry

With regard to what?

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Tim Smith solo
Mr & Mrs Smith and Mr Drake

Ah, that's better. Big smile
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

No mention of Tim Smith yet? Cry

With regard to what?

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Tim Smith solo
Mr & Mrs Smith and Mr Drake

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No mention of Tim Smith yet? Cry
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I wasn't on this site when this thread started! Huge fan, big regrets I didn't know them when I lived in England and never got to see them

Sing To God
Little Man ...
Sounds For Ships & Irons
On Land & In The Sea
Garage Concerts
Guns

Also must see's related bands are:-
Spratleys Japs
Tim Smith solo
Sea Nymphs
Mr & Mrs Smith and Mr Drake
The Shrubbies
Lost Crowns
North Sea Radio Orchestra
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

To update the 2007 information, (almost) all of their stuff is now on Bandcamp.

And here is the link to their Bandcamp.
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To update the 2007 information, (almost) all of their stuff is now on Bandcamp.
Also there are numerous Cardiacs-related bands such as Knifeworld or The Sea Nymphs worth checking out.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


Rather old topic I know


14 years? Must be some kind of record.


No, there have been older still ones.

Now if I were going for some kind of record, this is quoted from the first post:

Quote So, what do other folks here think? There was a thread on them ages ago but that's well and truly died. I wonder how many Cardiacs fans we have on PA nowadays...


Funny that that ages ago wouldn't have been more than three years old roughly.

How time flies. My son was born in 2007 and is now in high school. Seems like yesterday at PA to me

I do like it when old appreciation threads are unlocked and responded to rather than creating new ones (I have unlocked a few for people).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2021 at 02:04
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


Rather old topic I know

14 years? Must be some kind of record.
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