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memowakeman 
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 Topic: Is Latin-America becoming the new prog leader?Posted: February 20 2009 at 20:09 |
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Yes, that Platurno
Here is their myspace http://www.myspace.com/bandaplaturno
Good listen!
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moshkito
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 14:24 |
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HI,
It might be me ... or where I live ...
I always thought that other countries were always better than America when it comes to Prog of any kind ... and most of it has to do with the way arts are run in America ... by money ... and most of them are not art ... they are just "products" ...
Europe has a much more extensive musical history and thus, hearing something different and more experimental is not exactly out of the ordinary ... and is often times acceptable. And there are a lot of way out there zones in there ... I mean some of the jazz improv stuff in Paris is hard to even label ... likewise the likes of Heldon, Pierre Henri and many others did the same thing with an electric guitar ....
America, because it has no neighbors (other than Mexico -- and it shows in the LA area!!!), in many ways is immune to hearing anything else but a different version of the same country song and dance. And that limits the cross cultural talents and abilities that usually come with the majority of prgo bands.
When I was in Brazil, this was the 60's, there was always an explosion of experimental and vibrant music that was (often) not in the pop idiom ... and in there at least they recognized some of it ... however, I find it really bizarre that even Brazil does not usually mention Egberto Gismonti ... and he is by far one of the most experimental and "out there" composers that can sound like Stravinsky one minute, Villa Lobos the next and Jazz the next and Bossa Nova the next ... all mixed ... and because we are "ear tuned" to top ten, it's hard for anyone to accept and understand a lot of music that defies description ... but at least in some places there is some respect for the musicality and artistry of it ... something that does not happen in America where the likes of Frank Zappa are still bums from LA ... as far as most music industries and bs are concerned.
Places that have a wider, and larger, body of history in the arts (not just music) will usually have a lot of things going on ... and it is just a matter of us looking at it or not ... specially nowadays, where the Internet is breaking down the barriers ... which is the best thing to all the xenophobic ears out there ...
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Prog-Brazil
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 12:10 |
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This Platurno?
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Let the sunshine in
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verslibre
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 11:05 |
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Weblink? |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 18:18 |
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^Lol.
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pianoman
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 18:09 |
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"The Mars Volta is a great band from Mexico" - Captain Obvious
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Prog-Brazil
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Posted: February 18 2009 at 14:44 |
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Vlad V !!! I found them here.. they live near from my city. You can download their albums free in their official website: http://www.vladv.com.br/
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CCVP
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Joined: September 15 2007 Location: Vitória, Brasil Status: Offline Points: 7971 |
Posted: July 21 2008 at 22:36 |
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MINDFLOW will release an album this year
  
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 20 2008 at 17:42 |
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Prog-Brazil, It's a long time ago I listened to Redd but in my memory they sounded
very varied, check out the excellent reviews Cesar Inca wrote, very descriptive as usual
 Here are reviews about overlooked Latin-American progrock bands I wrote in the past:
BAUER - Astraunato Olvidado - Here’s the Argentine answer to RADIOHEAD! Most of the songs on this album (2004) have a great build up: it starts cosmic, then gradually the music swells and finally BAUER features bombastic eruptions with howling electric guitars and floods of Mellotron. The Spanish vocals fit perfect to the often melancholic climates and the integration of organ, twanging electric guitar, acoustic rhythm guitar, piano and synthesizer is subtle and tasteful. This very compelling music is a mindblowing experience, for sure progrock has emotion! Although RADIOHEAD is the main influence, other obvious references are PINK FLOYD (Gilmourian slide guitar), PORCUPINE TREE (cosmic climates) and LANDBERK (fragile guitarplay and violin-Mellotron). The final composition “Un camino a traves del airs” is the highlight: lots of Mellotron, hypnotizing vocals, suddenly heavy guitarplay and an ominous, almost claustrofobic climate (evoking KING CRIMSON, “Red”-era) with splendid choir- Mellotron, I’m on cloud number nine! - This is a Chilean quintet featuring Alxe Tefanikis (electric – and acoustic guitar), Sebastian Torrejon (bass), Sergio Menare (drums, percussion and keyboards), Juan Daniel Rios (flute) and Gonzalo Muja (drums, marimba, vibraphone and keyboards). In ’97 they released their eponymous debut-album, 3 years later followed by a second album entitled “Mixolidio”. The music has hints from Jethro Tull and Focus. The CD release from their first album contains the six LP-songs and two bonustracks from 2001. Ergo Sum sounds like a progressive mix from folk and metal with lots of changing moods, including swirling fluteplay (like Ian Anderson) and heavy electric guitarplay (in the vein of Vai, Satriana or Malmsteen) with many blistering solos. The use of instruments like the marimba gives the music a fine touch. The second CD is more varied (acoustic guitar, saxophone, vibraphone and flute) and divided into three parts. The first contains five songs from ’99: swinging, dynamic and alternating (flute, heavy guitar, 2 vibraphone-players), a quite unique sound. The second parts includes 7 live tracks from ’99: the emphasis is more on the heavy guitarplay. The last section features two bonustracks from 2001 with alternating and captivating progrock, again an interesting blend of folk and rock with flute, vibraphone and electric guitar. Ergo Sum’s sound is not loaded with keyboards but nonetheless they sound very progressive. EVOLUCION-La Era De Piscis - Here is one of the finest surprises from the Chilean progrock label Mylodon Records. This amazing four piece formation never released an album so it was time to release this CD that contains material from the Eighties, recorded between 1982 and 1986 in changing line-ups. I was immediately impressed by the high level of the musicians. Their often swinging sound alternates between early Camel (“Moonmadness” and “Mirage”-era) and jazz: dynamic, many shifting moods, great accellarations and lots of splendid soli on guitar and keyboards. The interplay between the musicians is outstanding, both in the more symphonic parts as in the jazzy interludes like “Swing de ilusiones” (including vibraphone). The synthsizer soli (frequent use of the pitchbend button) sound somewhere between Peter Bardens and Jan Hammer. The track “Zodiaco” reminds me of Pendragon, mainly because of the Nick Barrett-like guitar work. I had a great time while listening to this strong and powerful instrumental music from Evolucion, this one is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! JAIME ROSAS CUARTETO-CRECIENDO - On their third CD this band has turned from a trio into a quartet, guitarplayer Javier Sepulveda has joined Jaime Rosas his group. Their latest entitled “Creciendo” is a step forward because the compositions sound more mature than the other two preceding albums. This band has so much to offer! 1. Invocacion (3:54) : This tracks delivers a bombastic atmosphere with lush and varied keyboards, metal guitar runs and an electric guitar/synthesizer duel, very spectacular. The climate changes to bombastic progmetal, very dynamic and exciting with great work on the keyboards and guitar. 2. Creciendo (3:51) : This track is in the vein of the first one featuring exciting progmetal with strong guitar – and keyboard play. 3. Un Volcan En Las Nubes (3:56) : Spectacular and bombastic with classical sounding keyboards and Ritchie Blackmore inspired electric guitar runs that blend classic and rock in a fascinating way ! 4. Gravedad (7:46): This is sensational and alternating progmetal featuring splendid interplay, lots of strong breaks and shifting moods, a sensitive electric guitar solo and an exciting duel between the guitar and synthesizer. 5. La Hermandad Del Fin Del Mundo (8:57): First classical piano, then a blend of acoustic rhythm-guitar, Spanish vocals and piano, followed by a wonderful acoustic guitar solo. Then beautiful Rick Wakeman-inspired acoustic piano work, supported by acoustic rhythm-guitar. The final part contains a fine acoustic guitar solo. 6. Imprudencia (2:37): This short piece is in the vein of Japanese progrock band GERARD featuring propulsive drums and bombastic work on the organ and synthesizers. 7. El Mito Del Eterno Retorno (18:12): Here is the ‘magnum’ opus from the Jamie Rosas Cuarteto! Their sound often evokes early GERARD, I love that bombastic symphonic sound! I’m not very delighted about the average vocals but the instrumental parts are great with lots of interesting changing climates, breaks on strong soli on keyboards and guitar. A great and exciting composition that alternates between symphonic rock and metal. 8. Ocaso (2:32): A mellow piece with beautiful classical piano. PARTHENON – MARE TENEBRIS - Here is good news from Venezuela, not a very prolific progrock country! Parthenon is a band that was founded in 1979 by two schoolfriends. After some years the keyboardplayer Victor Fiol left the band in order to join known fellow Venezuelan progrock band Tempano and soon Parthenon disbanded. Early the Nineties the two schoolfriends Robert Santamaria (keyboards/percussion) and Juan Carlos Ballesta (drums) re-founded Parthenon. Along with a female singer, a bass player and guest musicians they made new versions of the early songs and re-recorded it as this new CD, added with two sessions songs from 1980-1981 and a live track from 1981.The eight compositions sound impressive as the band does, especially the keyboard work is excellent evoking the ‘great Hammond and Moog days’ of Keith Emerson (and at some moments UK Mark II) in the early Seventies along swinging piano and some majestic violin-Mellotron. We also can enjoy flowing and senstitive work on the electric guitar, often in strong interplay with the keyboards. The music has obvious hints from ELP but the female Spanish vocals and parts with the Theremin (outstanding duel with synthesizers in Conversaciones) and hobo give Parthenon their progrock a special flavor. And the compositions deliver captivating musical breaks and musicial surprises. The two studio songs from 1980-1981 sound a bit dated and the live track is on the level of a bootleg but contains pleasant psychedelic inspired music (including a compelling organ solo). Another great release from the slightly overlooked Latin-american progrock scene! SLEEPWALKER SUN - Sleepwalker Sun - This is a Brasilian musical project featuring violin player Marcus Viana from Sagrado. I had heard many positive stories about this CD and was very curious to hear it finally! Well, from the very first moment I was struck by their sound, this is a very good progrock and deserves more attention! It contains seven alternating and dynamic compositions (between 4 and 15 minutes): from dreamy or compelling to bombastic and propulsive with often a great tension between the majestic violin and heavy electric guitar. The music delivers many shifting moods and accelarations, most of the time fluent and bombastic and loaded with great guitar work (fiery and biting soli and heavy riffs) and a huge portion of sumptuous keyboards. The female singer Giana Araujo does a good job but I prefer her singing in the more mellow parts. My highlights are the exciting opener Blindfold (great contrast between the classical violin - and electric guitar sound), Russian Roulette (wonderful Mellotron waves), the mellow Jalen’s Eyes (beautiful classical violin and piano) and the dynamic, a bit Rush-inspired Nocturnal (great bombastic sound and strong soli on guitar and keyboards).HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOR THE HEAVY PROGHEADS! VLAD V - Here’s a Brasilian quartet that was founded in ’86, the name is derived from a hero in the Roman history. The band is Jean Carlo (vocals, flute, guitar, violin, banjo and harmonica), Beto Luciani (guitar and violin), Claudio Reif (bass), Jairson Dorigatti (keyboards and accordeon) and Flavio Theilacher (keyboards and percussion). It lasted until the early Nineties to make a serie of records: “Vlad V” (’94), Espada E O Dragao (’96), O Quinto Sol (’99) and Volume IV (2003). The most obvious influences are JETHRO TULL and FOCUS (swirling fluteplay) but in general their sound is quite unique with passionate Portuguese vocals. The third album O Quinto Sol is a pleasant blend of several styles (folk, blues, rock, prog) with the use of many instruments (violin, flute, acoustic – and electric guitars, bandolin, mouth-organ). The compositions are melodic and alternating, from dreamy with folky instruments till up-tempo with heavy guitarwork. The fourth album Volume IV is in the vein of the third but has more hints from JETHRO TULL (even some covers). Most of the compositions sound pleasant with many shifting moods (even an Eastern climate) but some heavier tracks lack fresh ideas, a bit too much from the same. Nonetheless this is a promising progrock band. Edited by erik neuteboom - July 20 2008 at 17:45 |
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Prog-Brazil
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Posted: July 20 2008 at 17:09 |
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I don't know Subliminal yet. Redd I listened a long time ago. I remember they play heavy prog, right?
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Prog-Brazil
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Posted: July 20 2008 at 17:02 |
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Yes, shure. Anyway, my misunderstanding can be useful here: I recommend "Volume 7" (2007) than any other compilation. Believe me
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Atkingani
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Posted: July 20 2008 at 11:40 |
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In this case, I think Memo is referring to Violeta's album released this year, P-B, actually a compilation of old stuff from the 80s never released previously - nothing spectacular but with a certain scent of history.
Otherwise, for their latest studio album "Volume 7" (2007), I share your opinion which can be glimpsed in my review about it.
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Prog-Brazil
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Posted: July 20 2008 at 09:47 |
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Let me intrude here, Memowakeman: I really loved this last album by Violeta. I never was their fan, but that album is fantastic. The first song reminds me "Everyday" by Hackett and other are like Caravan and a little Pink Floys, like always.
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memowakeman
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Posted: July 20 2008 at 00:18 |
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I like a lot Opus One by Diapasao, it's a great recommendation Guigo
About Violeta de Outono, have you listened to their new album? how is it?
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Prog-Brazil
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Posted: July 19 2008 at 18:33 |
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Don't forget Estribo by Cartoon, released in this year too (I don't like too much their music but this doesn't count
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 19 2008 at 17:44 |
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Well Prog-Brazil, I was surprised to see that Subliminal is on PA but Alma
not although Alma is a better solo effort, in my opinion, strange
 SUBLIMINAL – Limbo - During the recordings of Nexus their experimental CD entitled Buenos Aires Free Experience Keyboardplayer Lalo Huber and drummer Luis Nakamura shared a special musical moment (when the rest of the band was eating a hot pizza), this resulted in the musical solo project Subliminal, a trio with singer Lito Marcello, Lalo’s best friend. In roder to test the musical boundaries they decide to record this album with each member in a separate room, only connected with the live mix on their headphones, a both interesting as daring musical experiment and genuine free improvisation with the vocals, keyboards and rums as the only instruments! - On Limbo I hear a blend of dreamy songs with melancholical/romantical Spanish vocals, mellow keyboards and slow drums and songs with bombastic keyboards and dynamic drums. Especially the swirling Hammond organ solos (Keith Emerson inspired) and the spectacular synthesizer sound are worth listening like in The Day Is Today, Under The Sphinx (heavy church organ sound), The Game Resists and Reclosion (both delviering great interplay between keyboards and drums), One Million More (fat Moog flights like Keith Emerson), King Of Sapphire (Hammond and Moog ‘walhalla’) and the exciting final piece The Final Party (strong interplay between the 3 musicians but a bit weird vocals). Some tracks contains quite theatrical vocals (like in a rock-opera), these vocals are a huge contrast with the more traditional vintage keyboard inspired compositions, it prooves the trio’s need to experiment and scout the musical boundaries. - Not every song on this album is ‘my cup of tea’, it’s not the ‘Nexus music’, it’s also not on the ‘Nexus level’ but nonetheless Limbo it delivers interesting progressive music with many exciting keyboard parts, especially the work on the unsurpassed Hammond organ. By the way, two years ago I asked attention for Redd in this thread, I am very glad that this Argentine band is on PA now
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Atkingani
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Posted: July 19 2008 at 14:21 |
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2008 has been a better year for the Brasilian prog scene than 2007. Three bands released new material after many years off: Nave, Trem Do Futuro & Tempus Fugit. The veteran band Violeta De Outono released a new CD with previously unreleased stuff, O Terço released a DVD and 14-Bis issued a compilation.
Please pay attention to some new acts like Tarkus, Ashtar, Diapasão and check the new bands that are working mainly in the folk, jazz & experimental vein - I think that we'll have good news in the years to come.
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Prog-Brazil
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Posted: July 19 2008 at 08:23 |
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Alma (that I never heard about them before) and El Wara (excelent psychedelic band) aren't in PA yet. I listened a new song by Tempus Fugit in their website... in fact, it's very good |
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 19 2008 at 04:57 |
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Here's my latest Latin-American progrock discovery:
ALMA – Sobre Fantasias (***1/2)
- After their splendid new studio album Perpetuum Karma, several Nexus members decided to deliver solo projects: Lalo, Luis en Lito founded the trio Subliminal (album Limbo) en guitarplayer Carlos Lucena invited Roxana Truccolo (vocals and keyboards), their project is named Alma and their debut CD entitled Sobre Fantasias. - The album has a very lush instrumentation: Carlos on acoustic -, classical – and electric guitar (along bass and programms) and Roxanna on acoustic – and electric piano, harpsichord and organ (along Spanish vocals), the colouring of the 11 (often a bit laidback) compositions is wonderful and varied. I like Roxanna her warm voice, it matches perfectly with Carlos his sensitive guitar sound, the best examples are the tracks Before The Day (slow rhythm with howling guitar runs), Silent Witness (compelling with beautiful interplay between guitar and keyboards), the dreamy Dawn (again howling guitar runs and the sound of the Fender Rhodes electric piano along a guest musician on violin) and the rocking final piece Storm featuring fiery guitar and a propulsive rhythm-section. I am delighted about the two songs Greys Of The Afternoon (delivering warm play on classical guitar and Grand piano) and Elf that contains wonderful interplay between harpsichord and acoustic guitar, the electric guitar halfway reminds me of Mike Oldfield.
- I am sure this beautiful mellow album will please the progheads who love a blend of prog with classical and folk music. And here's one of the most overlooked Latin-American progrock album in the last ten years:
WILLIAM GRAY - Living Fossils (****)
- This is an Argentine musical project featuring 10 musicians and focussing on three subjects: an album, an audio-visual show and a multi-media website (still under construction). The story on this concept album is about a person called Virgilio who is walking on the streets of Buenos Aires and lives between sane and insanity. During my first listening session I got more and more excited, this is a very alternating and captivating blend of different styles, from compelling and bombastic with some progmetal climates (evoking Ayreon), powerful Hammond runs and fiery guitar to mellow pieces with classical piano and violin, impressive church-organ intro's or folky oriented songs with acoustic guitar and warm English vocals, what a splendid musical adventure! - I give you some of the many highlights on this CD. First Darkest Side: it starts compelling and bombastic with heavy guitar riffs, orchestral keyboards, violin and fiery guitar, then a mid-tempo with fluent Hammond runs, wonderful violin-Mellotron and powerful guitar followed by a short mellow part with melancholical violin play and in the end a slow rhythm with sensitive guitar and violin. Then the track Fading Points: lots of shifting moods and great ideas with bombastic interplay between Hammond and heavy guitar, blended with sparkling classical piano and heavy guitar runs, very exciting and dynamic! Another great composition is Urban Battle II: after a church-organ intro the atmosphere is compelling with fat guitar riffs and powerful Hammond waves along fiery guitar runs. The parts with dreamy piano, violin and the distinctive bandoneon turn the music into a very captivating experience. Finally the song Urban Battle III: the climate is bombastic with progmetal hints featuring great keyboard work (church-organ, Hammond, Mellotron) and thundering drums. The final track from this breathtaking album is in Argentine style delivering a tango atmosphere with piano and bandoneon, how beautiful with a very moving, melancholical undertone! I am sure that many progheads will be delighted about this excellent debut CD! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!! Edited by erik neuteboom - July 19 2008 at 05:05 |
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CCVP
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Posted: July 19 2008 at 00:14 |
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The new Tempus Fugit album was released this year (i bought it, ha ha!) and the Haddad are already in studio recording another album. |
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