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Topic: Justin Chancellor (Tool) Posted: January 17 2008 at 12:48 |
Squire's use of effects, and his overall way of contributing to what the guitar and keyboards are doing both on stage and in the studio are very similar, in my opinion, to Chancellor's role in Tool. What he does is very different than what a lot of bassists do, and is in many ways irreplaceable in regards to the sound that Tool has found. I feel the same way about the early Yes recordings, and for whatever reason, when I think of Justin Chancellor, I think of Squire.
I am uneducated on music and on progressive rock music in general, I am simply an admirer. I will not pretend to know much, and all I do know is what I hear and how I feel when I listen to the music.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: January 17 2008 at 00:41 |
^Personally, i think that was a bit of a stretch, Squire and Chancellor have very dynamics some of the time and i myself have never heard anything from Chancellor that has ever reminded me of Squire. In fact i find myself far more able to draw comparisions with Les Claypool and Geezer Butler, than i can with Squire.
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Posted: January 16 2008 at 12:25 |
I think that in many respects, and I hope this doesn't seem like a stretch, his style is very reminiscent of Squire from Yes.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: January 16 2008 at 03:49 |
After listening a lot more to 10 000 days lately, i have even more admiration for Justin Chancellors role in the band. His restraint combined by his ability to put himself at the forefront of the sound in that album is truly something great.
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Posted: January 15 2008 at 22:19 |
Not someone I would put in a top 10 list in terms of musicianship, but his inventiveness, tone-choices, and how important he is to the Tool sound brings a lot of admirers.
I love his bass work in many songs. It creates a fantastic mood in songs like Intension.
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Posted: January 13 2008 at 21:18 |
Yeah, Justin is the man. Many Tool fans don't consider him as much of an important part of the instrumental songwriting process as Danny and Adam are, and I don't get that. He is extraordinary at what he does. After seeing Tool live twice on their 10,000 days tour, I have tons of respect for him. On certain tracks of the three albums he's recorded on, the bass lines almost seem shiny. I've never researched what it is he actually does when it comes to effects, but whatever he does, it's so so so appropriate for both their recordings and live shows.
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:23 |
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Firefly
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 19:23 |
Can't blame sularetal though...that band has way too many Martins.
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 18:59 |
Firefly wrote:
[QUOTE=sularetal]Geddy Lee & John Myung are really able and talented musicians. The fact that I prefer bassists (on the metal scene) like Martin Lopez and Justin Chancellor maybe lies to the fact that I prefer Anathema over Spastic Ink .
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Uhm...unless I'm missing something big, isn't Martin Lopez a drummer?
Do you mean Martin Mendez??
Martin Lopez is a drummer, of Opeth fame, although he as of 2006 he was replaced Martin Axenrot.
Martin Mendez is the current bassist of Opeth.
So yes, Firefly stands correct 
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UtUmNo1
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 07:28 |
Tony Fisher wrote:
I'm baffled by the admiration for him. He's completely ordinary, as are the rest of the band. Mediocre and slightly boring songs, played competently enough but without any sign of virtuosity, though the drummer and singer are pretty good.
If I had to choose between DT and Tool, I'd actually go for DT because at least I could admire the virtuoso playing. Lateratus is THE most overrated album in the top 100 IMO. To see it above masterpieces like Mirage, In the Land of Grey and Pink and Meddle actually makes me laugh, it's so ridiculous.
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I'm baffled by the admiration for Caravan's In The Land Of Grey And Pink. I can't think of anything more pretentious and glib than this boring album. To see it above it above masterpieces like Relayer and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway actually makes me laugh, it's so ridiculous.
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Firefly
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 06:46 |
sularetal wrote:
Geddy Lee & John Myung are really able and talented musicians. The fact that I prefer bassists (on the metal scene) like Martin Lopez and Justin Chancellor maybe lies to the fact that I prefer Anathema over Spastic Ink .
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Uhm...unless I'm missing something big, isn't Martin Lopez a drummer?
Do you mean Martin Mendez??
The Owl wrote:
great match for Danny Carey's drumming.
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I concur. I'm not really sure that there's place for actual virtuosity in Tool. They're all about the spiral effect. I find that JC's bass lines add to that hypnotic thing they like to do, and I think it fits well. I don't think I'd go so far as to start comparing him with Myung and co, as they're in totally different headspaces, and if Chancellor were to suddenly go off on wild tangents like a rampant camel, Tool wouldn't be Tool anymore. That may be great news to some, a tragedy to others.
For all we know he might be the fastest, most technical bass player on earth. But Tool's no place to show that off, so he does what the music needs. So in other words, what The Owl and Hughes JB4 said. He's a great match for Carey's drumming.
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Posted: January 09 2008 at 17:27 |
BroSpence wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
Good, but no Myung or Sheehan |
I wouldn't say Sheehan is a good bass player. Yes he's fast and obviously has the skills of a virtuoso, but he's really Steve Vai without a guitar.
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Billy Sheehan, contrary to popular belief, does not just play 'lead' bass, as witnessed when i saw him at G3 live in Melbourne in december 2006, he played the role of both rhythm and lead bass perfectly.
But i can agree that Billy Sheehan would most likely not be fitting in a band like Tool, although i think Myung could fit in there, but of course for the style of Tool, Justin Chancellor fits in perfect, just the same as Adam Jones is no guitar virtuoso in the true sense(perhaps rhythm guitar virtuoso if there was such thing?), but his sense for perfectly matching Danny Carey's drumming is perfect.
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Posted: January 04 2008 at 16:57 |
A very good bassist more for his originality and clever bass lines but when it comes to technique and all that he doesn't really reach geddy lee's Knee.
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Posted: January 03 2008 at 19:35 |
I like the bass on "Reflection"
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BroSpence
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Posted: January 03 2008 at 18:36 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Good, but no Myung or Sheehan |
I wouldn't say Sheehan is a good bass player. Yes he's fast and obviously has the skills of a virtuoso, but he's really Steve Vai without a guitar.
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Posted: January 02 2008 at 18:34 |
hahhaha..... someone expressing some latent thoughts by moving this thread to the prog related area
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The Owl
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 10:44 |
A very forcefully creative player and has his own unique sound for certain, great match for Danny Carey's drumming.
Problem is, I can't say that Tool does anything for me, every one of their songs sounds so damned much alike! (worst case of Lionel Richie Disease* I've ever seen!)
*= Lionel Richie Disease: A chronic condition affecting musicians characterized by writing minute variations of the same song over and over again. Named after one of the worst offenders, Lionel Richie.
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 10:27 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
^ I dunno, I think Chris Squires muddy base tone would fit in quite nicely with Tools precision riffing. |
Muddy! 
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 01:46 |
Proletariat wrote:
Mabe not the best bassist ever, but he is perfect for the band. |
true.. he may not be the best but he sure fits Tool sound...
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:30 |
I like Chancellor. He's got a great tone and style, along with Adam Jones.
His old band, Peach, is a really good band to check out if you like his playing. Giving Birth to a Stone was reissued some time back, so its pretty easy to find.
They're still releasing music to this day without him too, under the name Suns of the Tundra. The best way i can describe it is Alternative flavored prog metal.
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