Metal vs Rock

Philéas wrote: The reason that the production of Metal is better (in some peoples opinions) might be that the greatest Rock bands such as Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy etc. etc. were at their peak in the '70s. The technology has evolved very much since then, so albums can get a better, clearer sound nowadays. Personally, I have no opinion on the subject as I don't listen to much Metal.

Yes that's true.  The technology has increased, but there were still very well produced albums coming out of those time periods.  ELP's albums were very well produced, and somewhat later Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and Helloween had very well produced albums. 

However, there is no way anyone could argue Yes or Genesis had production anywhere near the level of Dream Theater or Pain of Salvation.  That's part of the reason I like the bands more, they just sound better when I listen to them.

The reason that the production of Metal is better (in some peoples opinions) might be that the greatest Rock bands such as Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy etc. etc. were at their peak in the '70s. The technology has evolved very much since then, so albums can get a better, clearer sound nowadays.

Personally, I have no opinion on the subject as I don't listen to much Metal.

Logos wrote: but the statement "good production can make "bad" music seem better" is just ridiculous and has no truth in it what-so-ever.

Perhaps you misunderstood me. I didn't say that it actually makes the music better, but that a particular song can seem to be much better if it's splendidly produced.

Trickster F. wrote: AtLossForWords wrote: The production of metal is so much better than that of rock.   Eh?   We're obviously not listening to the same metal then.

No we're not.

Peter Rideout wrote: scissors

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The production has very little to do with the quality of the music itself..

I'll have to go with metal.  The production of metal is so much better than that of rock.  I think the main reason why I'm so much more willing to listen to obscure metal bands than obscure rock bands is because of the production quality.

This is an early front-runner for "vaguest poll of the year" award.  I like some metal and I like some rock.  What does Joe Satriani fall under?  You might say rock, but then you'd have to listen to songs like "Mind Storm" or "Devil's Slide"--they sound a lot like metal.  What about Soundgarden and Alice in Chains?  They were "grunge," which would normally equate to "alt-rock," but they had heavy, HEAVY influence from Sabbath, and often displayed the visceral qualities of metal.  What about Sabbath themselves?  By today's metal standards, they were about as metal-y as The Beatles.  But is anybody gonna doubt their status as gods of metal?

And people calling Rush the first prog-metal band?  What's WRONG with you?

If you classify Deep Purple, Zeppelin and co as rock, as well as most prog then rock.

Peter Rideout wrote: stonebeard wrote: Peter Rideout wrote: scissors    Don't run! Now you tell me!     paper