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Forgotten Son 
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Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:57 |
 XTChuck wrote:
PINK FLOYD - THE FINAL CUT has 2 good tracks, "Hero's Return" and "Not Now John". The rest of the album is crap.
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Fletcher Memorial Home? The only two I can think of at the moment are: Pink Floyd - Meddle: Echoes and One of These Days. Camel - I Can See Your House from Here: Ice. IMO, of course.
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Harold Demure
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Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:38 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Harold Demure wrote:
And about Fragile:
Tony Fisher wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Fragile:
Southside of the Sky
Heart of the Sunrise |
Agree on the album, but I'd rate Heart of the Sunrise and Roundabout as the excellent tracks. Most of the rest is just filler or rubbish. |
I totally disagree with you. For me the album is an essential in prog music and a masterpiece, IMO BETTER than Close To The Edge. Where do you see (or hear) that filler? Cans And Brahms? Beautiful melody with participation of symphonic orchestra. [IMG]smileys/smiley32.gif" align=middle>We Have Heaven - OK, I agree if someone doesn't like it, although I think it's a good song. South Side Of The Sky - great riff, dynamic, melody - it has everything for me... Five Percent For Nothing - yes, this is a filler.[IMG]smileys/smiley17.gif" align=middle> Long Distance also has beatiful melodies and passages with a smooth transition to The Fish, which I always considered as a masterpiece. Mood For A Day - another masterpiece. Heart Of The Sunrise - OK, you like it, so I pass it over. Summing up, Fragile IS a masterpiece [IMG]smileys/smiley32.gif" align=middle> . That's my opinion, I know everyone can disagre with it, but I wanted to give some arguments for Fragile and "defend" this album, because I really think it deserves a place in the top 10 best albums of prog! Sorry for off topic. [IMG]smileys/smiley17.gif" align=middle> |
A masterpiece with two tracks that you skip and one you find ok? You don't seem to fond of the album either.
Harold Demure wrote:
[IMG]http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" align=middle> OK. I won't describe tracks one by one like I did with Fragile [IMG]http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" align=middle> to convince someone to listen again and maybe change his opinion. I just can't understand how a prog fan can say that such prog classic albums are weak, cr*p etc. Again sorry for off-topic. [IMG]http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" align=middle> |
It's probably due to a difference in that little thing called opinion. And I don't think the album is weak, I said Southside of The Sky and Heart of the Sunrise are amazing. That's 19mins of a 40 min album thats amazing. Hardly calling it weak just not an essential album. |
But these tracks on Fragile (Five Percent... and We Have Heaven) last about 3 minutes or something. And the rest is masterpiece, maybe you misunderstood me with Heart Of The Sunrise (it's probably the best on that album). BTW, the same is with Selling England. Two quite weak, but short tracks: I know what I Like and More Fool Me, but the rest is amazing and generally the album deserves to be called as essential. But I understand of course if you have different opinion.
Edited by Harold Demure - June 17 2006 at 08:41
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moodyxadi
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 17:41 |
The Final Cut - The final cut is ok, the rest...
Tormato - only first track and the whale thing (funny and kitsch)
Le Orme's album with Amico di Ieri (the one after ontrappunti) - only this song.
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Bach, Ma, Bros, Déia, Dante.
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fogwalker
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 15:35 |
Gog/Magog wrote:
"Out of Water" by Peter Hammill (his weakest solo album by far) -- "A Way Out" the last track on the album is outstanding -- the rest is... |
That's interesting -as "Out of Water" was the last Hammill album I bought and I found it disappointing too - I was kind of going off prog at the time anyway (it seemed that other bands I liked we're either doing nothing much (eg King Crimson), or were also releasing weak albums (e.g. Rush, Jethro Tull), and I was branching out into other genres.
Still, if you (and others) think that Ph improved after that, then maybe I'll start investing in his later output....
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man@arms
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 15:00 |
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It's not prog, but Zeppelin's 'Presence' comes to mind. "Achilles Last Stand" and "For Your Life" rank among Zep's finest achievements. They rest of the album is quite a let down.
Edited by man@arms - June 16 2006 at 15:01
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Gog/Magog
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 14:32 |
"Out of Water" by Peter Hammill (his weakest solo album by far) -- "A
Way Out" the last track on the album is outstanding -- the rest is...
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 13:54 |
Harold Demure wrote:
And about Fragile:
Tony Fisher wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Fragile:
Southside of the Sky
Heart of the Sunrise |
Agree on the album, but I'd rate Heart of the Sunrise and Roundabout as the excellent tracks. Most of the rest is just filler or rubbish. |
I totally disagree with you. For me the album is an essential in prog music and a masterpiece, IMO BETTER than Close To The Edge. Where do you see (or hear) that filler? Cans And Brahms? Beautiful melody with participation of symphonic orchestra.  We Have Heaven - OK, I agree if someone doesn't like it, although I think it's a good song. South Side Of The Sky - great riff, dynamic, melody - it has everything for me... Five Percent For Nothing - yes, this is a filler. Long Distance also has beatiful melodies and passages with a smooth transition to The Fish, which I always considered as a masterpiece. Mood For A Day - another masterpiece. Heart Of The Sunrise - OK, you like it, so I pass it over. Summing up, Fragile IS a masterpiece . That's my opinion, I know everyone can disagre with it, but I wanted to give some arguments for Fragile and "defend" this album, because I really think it deserves a place in the top 10 best albums of prog!
Sorry for off topic. |
A masterpiece with two tracks that you skip and one you find ok? You don't seem to fond of the album either.
Harold Demure wrote:
OK. I won't describe tracks one by one like I did with Fragile  to convince someone to listen again and maybe change his opinion. I just can't understand how a prog fan can say that such prog classic albums are weak, cr*p etc. Again sorry for off-topic. 
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It's probably due to a difference in that little thing called opinion. And I don't think the album is weak, I said Southside of The Sky and Heart of the Sunrise are amazing. That's 19mins of a 40 min album thats amazing. Hardly calling it weak just not an essential album.
Edited by Equality 7-2521 - June 16 2006 at 14:05
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XTChuck
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 13:33 |
PINK FLOYD - THE FINAL CUT has 2 good tracks, "Hero's Return" and "Not Now John". The rest of the album is crap.
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Mongo
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 13:28 |
Well.. I don't think I would classify it as a weak album but..
Relayer - GOD, never could get into the other two songs
As for weak albums, pretty much everything I've heard by
The Flower Kings
Spocks Beard
The Tangent
one or two good songs on each
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"The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish
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Negru Voda
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 13:00 |
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1) Comfortably Numb
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Quoted for truth.
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Rosescar
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 12:48 |
Baza wrote:
The Snow Goose - Rhayader (Again, I'm in a minority )
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That one sprung to mind too.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 12:37 |
Well, if I'm keeping it down to 1-2 strong tracks, a lot of albums would be ruled out, but here is what I can think of:
Camel - Breathless - Echoes and The Sleeper
- I Can See Your House from Here - Ice is really the only strong one, but Wait is also pretty decent
Dali's Dilemma - Manifesto for Futurism - Within a Stare, Miracles in Yesteryear
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BePinkTheater
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 12:22 |
Falling Into Infinity
New Mellenium, Lines in the Sand.
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I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
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MajesterX
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 12:16 |
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Spock's Beard- V
1. At the End of the Day
2. The Great Nothing.
This is essentially half the album, to I would still give the album like 4/5 stars overall. The other songs are not really bad, just they are not to my liking. Goodbye to yesterday is a crappy ballad, Neal Morse seems to love making at least one on each album, Revalation I never liked, all on a sunday is not really prog at all, and thoughts pt. 2....wait...that is a great song....well 3 are great then...whoops
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Bern
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 12:00 |
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In the same vein, I always liked Home by the sea and Second home by the sea from Genesis - Genesis but the rest is weaker.
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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johnobvious
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 11:59 |
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Supertramp- Even in the quietest moments
Loveryboy and Fool's overture. Ther rest I can live without.
He took a small apartment, above a shoe department.
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Biggles was in rehab last Saturday
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necromancing777
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 11:58 |
Genesis: Invisible Touch...
I always thought Domino (In the Glow of the Night) and The Brazilian were great tracks. The rest of it can go jump in a trash barrel.
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But it was mine in the first place, so I'll burn it to ash."
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johnobvious
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 11:49 |
[QUOTE=razifa]Drama from Yes. The only good song is "Machine Messiah"
I think the only good tracks on Drama are Machine Messiah, Does it really happen, Tempus Fugit and Into the Lens. Oops sorry, thats 90% of the album 
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Biggles was in rehab last Saturday
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GPFR
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 10:41 |
Gaspy Conana wrote:
GPFR wrote:
Nursery Cryme
Musical Box
Fountain of Salmacis
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I don't know man. Giant Hogweed and Seven Stones are pretty awesome as well. Harold the Barrel is kinda fun too.
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IDK, I liked them at first, but then they got boring fast, at least too me they did.
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Bern
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 10:40 |
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billbuckner wrote:
Rush - Moving Pictures
Tom Sawyer
YYZ
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I totally agree on this one.
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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