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    Posted: 2 hours 23 minutes ago at 07:32
The pre-Gillan/Glover Purple is somewhat neglected, I have that impression, at least. Not enough prog for proggers, not enough hard for rockers. Those first three albums seem to be always looking for but hardly finding an audience. I'm returning to them from time to time, and they never disappoint me.
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The first and last albums by Genesis - both better than they're often given credit for (and both rated a lowly 2.5 on PA), although I may be in a minority of one again with that opinion. Tongue
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Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

Rush's debut. I've never understood the dislike for this album. I mean Working Man and Here again are immense tracks and as a whole I think it's a brilliant album. 2.96 on this very site is way too low.


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Early Yes with Peter Banks. 
The Rod Evans era of Deep Purple
Genesis' debut album
Dream Theater's debut album
The early albums/EP of Savatage
Early Eloy (I love their debut album especially)





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Rush's debut. I've never understood the dislike for this album. I mean Working Man and Here again are immense tracks and as a whole I think it's a brilliant album. 2.96 on this very site is way too low.
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For some reason these click with me, but don't do well compared to their other albums (per PA/RYM ratings):

King Crimson - The ConstruKction of Light (this is actually my favorite KC album)
Jethro Tull - A
Pink Floyd - Ummagumma (just the studio disc and not the live one)
Genesis - Abacab
VDGG - A Grounding in Numbers

I've been meaning to divide by zero all day today.


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Interview is the last GG I really liked, but I do like music off that album. I especially enjoy the first few albums by GG. I love Acquiring the Taste. Yummy.

^^ I love Led Zeppelin's In Through the Out Door and much prefer it to the subsequent Coda, and I prefer to the preceding Presence. It has "Carouselambra" which I adore, and I do love "All of My Love" off it. I love John Paul Jones in those. As for Saga, the self-titled debut is easily my favourite by the band, and I actually thought it was very well-regarded in its discography (at least by Prog fans, maybe not compared to many other bands). I love APP's first two album especially but have not heard the post Eye in the Sky albums.

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Sometimes sufjan seems to repeat only because he's stuck in a spot and cant get out. (if that makes any sense)

I love repetition if its done well.  This is on the extreme end of the subject but one of my favorites.





Gotta admit, now that Sufjan Stevens music sounds too repetitive to me. I kind of feel like he's doing some Nirvana meets Radiohead thing in that first song. It's hardly a favourite track of mine by him. And I do get what you're saying.

All is well!  I actually do like!  Not sure why that even crossed my mind when listening. 
https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/new-2025-broken-hearts-troubled-minds



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^ Interview is the last GG I really liked, but I do like music off that album. I especially enjoy the first few albums by GG. I love Acquiring the Taste. Yummy.

^^ I love Led Zeppelin's In Through the Out Door and much prefer it to the subsequent Coda, and I prefer to the preceding Presence. It has "Carouselambra" which I adore, and I do love "All of My Love" off it. I love John Paul Jones in those. As for Saga, the self-titled debut is easily my favourite by the band, and I actually thought it was very well-regarded in its discography (at least by Prog fans, maybe not compared to many other bands). I love APP's first two album especially but have not heard the post Eye in the Sky albums.

Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:


Sometimes sufjan seems to repeat only because he's stuck in a spot and cant get out. (if that makes any sense)

I love repetition if its done well.  This is on the extreme end of the subject but one of my favorites.





Gotta admit, now that Sufjan Stevens music sounds too repetitive to me. I kind of feel like he's doing some Nirvana meets Radiohead thing in that first song. It's hardly a favourite track of mine by him. And I do get what you're saying.

Edited by Logan - 19 hours 38 minutes ago at 14:17
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Gentle Giant's "The Missing Piece." I think it's a brilliant album.
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Underappreciated "early" albums I love:

1. David Bedford - Star's End
2. Steve Hackett - Please Don't Touch
3. Saga - s/t

Underappreciated "late" albums I love:

1. Moody Blues - Strange Times
2. Styx - The Mission
3. Pink Floyd - The Endless River
4. ELP - Black Moon
5. Rick Wakeman - The Red Planet
6. Led Zeppelin - In Through the Out Door
7. Glass Hammer - Arise
8. Alan Parsons Project - Stereotomy
9. Alan Parsons Project - Gaudi
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I actually went out and bought the Mirror to the Sky CD from an Oxfam charity shop, even though they charged me £7 for it - which wasn't very charitable of them. Tongue


That's about £6 over the bar.

Yes, to everyone but me apparently. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I actually went out and bought the Mirror to the Sky CD from an Oxfam charity shop, even though they charged me £7 for it - which wasn't very charitable of them. Tongue


That's about £6 over the bar.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ I rather like what I have heard of Hijack as I recall.

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The last three albums by YES! Big smile


Thought you might mention Yes.

I might say that Yes had fairly firmly jumped the shark by Tormato and never really released a good (or essential for most Proggers) album after that, but my unpopular opinion (based solely on taste and a worthless opinion admittedly) would be that even by Close to the Edge they were at least precariously close to dipping their feet in shark infested waters. I do like Relayer, but nothing much by Yes after that. Not sure if the band released anything really generally highly regarded after Going for the One. No, I guess magnification has quite a few fans, and Fly From Here is higher regarded methinks than subsequent ones.

I actually went out and bought the Mirror to the Sky CD from an Oxfam charity shop, even though they charged me £7 for it - which wasn't very charitable of them. Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Valdez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 hours 30 minutes ago at 13:25
Paul Roberts and Baz as vocalists after Hugh Cornwell left the Stranglers... Wow do they get the critiques!!
 I LOVE Paul and Baz contributions, so many albums later (post Cornwell). Some excellent overlooked albums especially "About Time" and Norfolk Coast with Roberts singing.
Not Prog I know, but that's all that comes to mind ATM.


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^ I rather like what I have heard of Hijack as I recall.

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The last three albums by YES! Big smile


Thought you might mention Yes.

I might say that Yes had fairly firmly jumped the shark by Tormato and never really released a good (or essential for most Proggers) album after that, but my unpopular opinion (based solely on taste and a worthless opinion admittedly) would be that even by Close to the Edge they were at least precariously close to dipping their feet in shark infested waters. I do like Relayer, but nothing much by Yes after that. Not sure if the band released anything really generally highly regarded after Going for the One. No, I guess magnification has quite a few fans, and Fly From Here is higher regarded methinks than subsequent ones.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Valdez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 hours 49 minutes ago at 13:06
Am I wrong for simply loving Amon Duuls HIJACK?  lol.
Not their most popular album...  Sometimes I just put 'De Guadaloop' on a loop all day! 


Edited by Valdez - 20 hours 45 minutes ago at 13:10
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Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

What sometimes gets to me with some arrogant people is that they act like they know better than the composers or appreciators what's good and lose sight of the subjective nature of appreciation. Of course there are some standards of good and bad and metrics to objectively gauge that, like on the imitative performance level.


Let's be clear... I said I sort of liked it. I've heard other songs by him I like a lot. I'm not a critic, I'm a simple listener. 



Not trying to imply or thinking that you're like that in case it may come across that way, just sharing my experience with some people at PA over the years.

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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

...AMON DUUL 2 - DANCE OF THE LEMMINGS -- it might be the cover and how it just explodes in your imagination and you can't get out of it easily. But by the time you sit through the MM Soundtrack thing, with closed eyes and in the dark, you end up wondering where all this heavenly stuff is coming from. And then, if that is not enough, your mind, that appreciates art in all its styles, goes to get a cup of tea and spends its time wondering about "Mona Lisa has a bird brain" ... as you splash too much honey in your tea!...


Lots you mention that I like, and please don't consider removing your post even if it's not quite what I had in mind. That does not negate its value and I am not much of one of those "stick to a narrow topic" kinds of people. To me that can be really boring, I prefer more openness, and digressions can make the best reading and conversation. It also can be the most infuriating. Depends often on attitude and the open mindedness of the participants/ conversationlists.

I really like ADII, Yeti is a particular favourite album of mine, and I really like Tanz der Lemminge. While it often does get favourable reviews, I have noticed myself appreciating, and certainly recognising, the debut, Phallus Dei, more than many. It does have very good ratings at PA and RYM. To me it is one of the great albums of the 60s, but quite a few at PA don't seem to hold Krautrock in high regard or be very familiar with it. The post Wolf City album are not held in nearly as high regard (I like Vive la Trance, but don;t know the vast majority of later releases, only heard Made in Germany of post 1974 ADII albums).
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

What sometimes gets to me with some arrogant people is that they act like they know better than the composers or appreciators what's good and lose sight of the subjective nature of appreciation. Of course there are some standards of good and bad and metrics to objectively gauge that, like on the imitative performance level.


Let's be clear... I said I sort of liked it. I've heard other songs by him I like a lot. I'm not a critic, I'm a simple listener. 


Edited by Valdez - 20 hours 60 minutes ago at 12:55
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Giant for a Day - Gentle Giant
Talk - Yes
March or Die - Motorhead
Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace - The Offspring
The Getaway - Red Hot Chili Peppers

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