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    Posted: 16 hours 35 minutes ago at 10:58
It's all a subjective matter of opinion, and there is no right or wrong.  I like all YES albums a lot (some more than others), with the exception of most of Union/Onion, and most of H&E, but it's like choosing an ice cream flavor. I do have a few  "favorite" flavors (albums), but sometimes I like a different flavor just to keep things varied. 

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I've noticed that on the rate your music website there seems to be a lot of people who don't really appear to be prog fans who have TYA, Fragile and CTTE as four or more star albums. Why just those three? I'm not sure but maybe they have some sort of hipster following. Those folks are really missing out though by not listening to relayer also.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Yes has much weaker albums than GTFO though.
Absolutely. I personally can't stand 90210 (1983). It's not the 80's production or the synth pop stylistics. The songwriting on that album is just so infantile and dumbed down.

I disagree here. I've always liked 90125, I like this album even more than GTFO tbh. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Yes has much weaker albums than GTFO though.
Absolutely. I personally can't stand 90210 (1983). It's not the 80's production or the synth pop stylistics. The songwriting on that album is just so infantile and dumbed down.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Going for the One is imo one of Yes' weakest albums. I find Topographic Oceans to be a way way superior work.

I agree. 
Yes has much weaker albums than GTFO though. 
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Going for the One is imo one of Yes' weakest albums. I find Topographic Oceans to be a way way superior work.
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Fragile and Close to the Edge for me. I'm not sure which I would choose for the third album.
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I surely become more and more fond of Fragile, and uplifted too Big smile - but I prefer listen to the second half first.
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Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Am I alone in thinking that the GftO album sounds like a perfect blend of previous 70s Yes albums, excluded jazz-rocky Relayer?

The title track has that challenging harder fusion approach perhaps. I think overall it is its own animal. Wakey gets to do his own thing a bit more on Parallels and Awaken. Howe becomes slightly marginalised excepting Turn of The Century so that's his thing. It feels like a band in flux and without a direction. Possibly their most eclectic album and was a point at which anything was possible,
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Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Am I alone in thinking that the GftO album sounds like a perfect blend of previous 70s Yes albums, excluded jazz-rocky Relayer?

The front coverart puts me off already. Big smile


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Am I alone in thinking that the GftO album sounds like a perfect blend of previous 70s Yes albums, excluded jazz-rocky Relayer?
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

But the more I listen to Fragile, the more am I happy about its joyfulness and prefer it to Relayer's dark moments, and at the same time, some of Relayer can seem rather poppy to me.

And yet, it can look like the more I listen to Relayer, the more do I like it too. Big smile
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Btw, Relayer may look to me influenced by Brain Salad Surgery and Tarkus. 

Yes and ELP were bands that looked at each other quite a bit. Would Yes have been so keen to bring a keys man like Rick Wakeman into the fold but for the challenge laid down by Keith Emerson on early ELP albums? Stylistically though it's well known that Anderson and Howe were very interested in Mahavishnu Orchestra and that was more an influence on them at the time than ELP. I've heard it described as 'hard edged technicality' but there is none of the showboating of ELP to be honest.
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But the more I listen to Fragile, the more am I happy about its joyfulness and prefer it to Relayer's dark moments, and at the same time, some of Relayer can seem rather poppy to me.
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Btw, Relayer may look to me influenced by Brain Salad Surgery and Tarkus. 
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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

No wonder, as "The Gates of Delirium" is about the absurdity of The Vietnam War. Smile

Not quite. You might be getting it confused with "Yours is no Disgrace".

"The Gates of Delirium" is loosely based on Tolstoy's "War and Peace". 

I've seen that point of view as well, but this is what Jon Anderson has stated in an interview with Songfacts (February 2021):
  • "It's about the tribalism between warring factions, and who is the dominant country, the dominant energy at that time," Anderson explained in a Songfacts interview. "It was at the end of the Vietnam War. We were learning about the unbelievable destruction that was done to the Vietnamese, and for what?"
( https://www.songfacts.com/facts/yes/the-gates-of-delirium )


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

Relayer was exactly as Jon Anderson described it..a very Grey album. Patrick Moraz was described as playing a very schizoid type of style. At this point the band were taking a darker direction in music.

No wonder, as "The Gates of Delirium" is about the absurdity of The Vietnam War. Smile

Not quite. You might be getting it confused with "Yours is no Disgrace".

"The Gates of Delirium" is loosely based on Tolstoy's "War and Peace". 
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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

Relayer was exactly as Jon Anderson described it..a very Grey album. Patrick Moraz was described as playing a very schizoid type of style. At this point the band were taking a darker direction in music.

No wonder, as "The Gates of Delirium" is about the absurdity of The Vietnam War. Smile
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A. Close to the Edge / Going for the One / Yes Album

B. Fragile / TfTO/ Relayer / Drama
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Now, I've began serious listening to Relayer, and there's definitely some interesting, exiting and great stuff, not least "The Gates of Delirium".
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