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Poll Question: Choose three of your favourite tracks/songs used in cinema.
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    Posted: June 20 2023 at 06:54
Thanks Mila (and my pleasure), and thanks Christian for participating in a topic that was not entirely in your wheelhouse. Hope the next one will suit you better (and the best guarantee for that is of course to start one yourself Wink)

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As already said, I had my issues with this topic, but of course good thing is it didn't stop anyone else from submitting good music.

Now the best three of these were things I already knew, that's Jarrett's Koln Concert, Hurricane, my favourite Dylan track, and Bauhaus' Bela Lugosi's Dead (I see the post rock connection there, for those who follow my thread on this).

I think today I'm in the mood for classical stuff, so I'll vote for Dukas and Schumann (maybe corrupted by the fact that he may be my ancestor as explained in another thread Big smile) and Eno (I didn't know this one even though I have quite a bit of his). The Veils and Serra, maybe also others, may work better for me on another day.

 


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Film music is music originally composed for a film, but also music compiled from existing musical sources especially for a film. The topic of this poll refers to the latter, although there are of course also mixed forms of the previously mentioned types of film scores.

The usually instrumental parts of a soundtrack accompanying a film create, among other things, a certain basic atmosphere, which we later associate with the respective film. If it is not an original composition, the instrumental music used in a film cannot necessarily be attributed to a particular composer. That was the case for me, e.g, with Keith Jarrett's track that appears in Nanni Moretti's "Caro diario". Even though I was familiar with the music back when I watched the movie, I couldn’t remember it appearing in the film. I just didn't pay much attention at the time.

It's different with songs, they create special moments in a film, like e.g. Nancy Sinatra’s ‘Bang Bang’ in Tarantino’s "Kill Bill" and other songs that I discovered thanks to a film. But either way, it's rather the well-known songs that are remembered after all. That's why it was a bit difficult for me to find something suitable for the poll.

Once again, it was not easy to make a choice from this great music selection. But now that I have to make a decision, I will eventually give my vote to the following three:

- Bauhaus: Bela Lugosi’s Dead (I’m aware of the band but I don’t know their work in detail.)

- Eric Serra: Little Light of Love (I only knew Serra as a film music composer, esp.for Luc Besson's films)

- Keith Jarrett: The Köln Concert, Part I (I had not realised that Moretti’s films had such great soundtracks. And yes, jazz has always a good chance of getting my vote.)

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Thank you all for the music and especially for those background stories that went along with your choices!

That was an interesting poll, with a different approach to film music. Thanks a lot for hosting, Kees! Thumbs Up



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Sorry for being a bit late! I will vote by tonight at the latest.



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^ Thanks. My first exposure to Bela Lugosi's Dead was through The Hunger. I was 19 and decided to take a break from college and spend a year in Queensland (Australia) where my brother was living. The Hunger was his favourite film and became one of my favourites. The version on that is a shorter, re-recorded version. When I came back to Canada I purchased The Hunger soundtrack on CD, but it covered the classical pieces and more ambient music. No Bauhaus. SO I then bought the compilation album Volume One 1979-1983 for that songs particularly, It has the original longer version, and it introduced me to what became a stand-out Bauhaus track for me, In the Flat Field which features the lyrics, "Yin and yang lumber punch, go taste a tart, then eat my lunch" which arguably (very, very arguably one might say) are the greatest lyrics of all-time.

Bela Lugosi's Dead from The Hunger:



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2023 at 18:00
Good playlist! I had a couple listens through and voted on The Veils. Bauhaus, and Eric Serra.

I don't think I had ever listened to Bela Legosi's Dead all the way through. I have heard it. My first exposure was my freshman year in college where a guy on my dorm floor would repeatedly sing the chorus. And I would hear at parties and such, but never actually listened to it in its entirety.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2023 at 17:52
And a connection between Everybody Wants Some!! and Dazed and Confused is that director/writer Richard Linklater of Dazed and Confused later made a "thematic" sequel called Everybody Wants Some!! about the week before college classes begin in 1980. I have not seen that movie, but the Van Halen is surely in the movie as it is of course in the trailer.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2023 at 13:14
Ah, ah, I didn't know Milla Jovovich was in Dazed and Confused (since I haven't seen that film), but I knew of Rupert Hine's involvement in the RXRA album. Didn't know his album you put up in the other thread, so I'll have something new to listen to...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2023 at 10:45
The movies from which my songs come from each have a connection to The Fifth Element.

For Dazed and Confused, both movies have Milla Jovavich.

For Better Off Dead, the composer of the score is Rupert Hine who was a producer for Eric Serra for The Fifth Element. Rupert Hine and Eric Serra also cowrote the song "The Experience of Love" for the James Bond film GoldenEye.

I knew about Milla Jovavich before but learned the Rupert Hine connection when I thought about his song for the new wave playlist. I was wondering what else he had done.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2023 at 08:54
You guys and gals should propose more bad music in these polls, because - again - it is not easy to come to a vote. My shortlist consists of half of the suggestions: Girls Against Boys, The Veils, Nancy Sinatra, Bob Dylan, Van Halen and Brian Eno...
Then, I want Van Halen to be in (they procure me always so much pleasure!) as well as Nancy Sinatra (the most touching of all), so there's one slot left. Hmm... Bob Dylan it is.

Thank you all!

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

For the way I approached and preferred to interpret this "Music Goes to the Movies (terrific title), I thought about individual songs that not only were not written for the movies originally but were not as central to the film as something like Purple Rain, or Tommy, The Wall, Quadrophenia (and nor would be the artists/bands as integral in the way to approach this that made the most sense to me -- the original post is quite flexible in terms of the expectations). To me that is a very different exercise. Those films exist because of the music, and I would sooner call that "Movies Go to the Music" than "Music Goes to the Movies".


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2023 at 05:22
The first one I thought of was "Trouble" by Cat Stevens from Harold and Maude (1971), and before that it was on his album Mona Bone Jakon (1970) -- that said, that was used in an Interactive soundtrack music poll before and in a way it was too integral to the film (and Cat Stevens was too integral to the soundtrack) for the way I approached this. That song was integrated so beautifully in the film and various Cat Stevens songs were used to great affect. I would liken it to The Graduate with Simon and Garfunkel music -- those films are great showcases for Cat Stevens and S&G music.

For the way I approached and preferred to interpret this "Music Goes to the Movies (terrific title), I thought about individual songs that not only were not written for the movies originally but were not as central to the film as something like Purple Rain, or Tommy, The Wall, Quadrophenia (and nor would be the artists/bands as integral in the way to approach this that made the most sense to me -- the original post is quite flexible in terms of the expectations). To me that is a very different exercise. Those films exist because of the music, and I would sooner call that "Movies Go to the Music" than "Music Goes to the Movies".

Anyway, we are already past the nomination (and related discussion) stage and into the voting stage, and it's a bit late for regrets or sadness unless the not having nominated something yourself or chiming on earlier is regretted, or others who may be regretting their choices. It does help to get in early on these polls to express any concerns you have with how things are being conducted (important to carefully consider the original post). Might be fun if you hosted one of these Interactive Polls, Pedro. I'd be very interested to see your approach.

Edited by Logan - June 13 2023 at 05:53
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Hi,

Keith Jarrett's music from the KOLN album was also used in Nicolas Roeg's Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession. Some might think it off some, but even The Who's song is used beautifully, and using music in films is one thing that Nicolas Roeg was excellent at and it went as far back as "PERFORMANCE" when so much music meant so much to the story and the film itself, even if some ideas might have come from Don Cammell, although that is hard to fathom, considering how Nicolas used so much music in his films.

It's sad (for me) that so many things used here were just ... not quite/exactly about the film at all! And one that is exactly what the film is about (Purple Rain) is ignored ... 


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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

@Mila: Strange as it may seem, for someone working in the film world, I'm not that much fan of soundtracks isolated from the film (I may have just about 20 soundtracks myself) - they rarely have the same impact for me as stand-alone works as within the film. There are of course - many - exceptions, though.
Film music is a huge treasure trove where I've discovered many gems. I think that for a start it makes sense to focus on a certain type of film music, an era or culture, etc. Sometime ago I've been looking into music for sci-fi films e.g. The film score by Bebe and Louis Barron for "Forbidden Planet" (1956) is the first entirely electronic film score, and there are countless other examples.

I always thought that you were active in the music business. Interesting to learn that you actually work in the film world. Your poll theme now makes perfectly sense to me. And yes, it is also the season of film festivals. :)


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^ I'd be fine too, 'twas me just musing. And although the poll so recently started, I have listened to all, various suggestions multiple times, and I am comfortable voting.

The stand-out for me is The Veils - Nux Vomica (Il Divo). I keep on wanting to go back to it. Really great per my tastes.

My second choice is Brian Eno - By This River. I really like this too and is a stand-out song.

For my third, I'm not as sure: Kee's Bowie one would have been my choice, closely followed by Yann Tiersen. As it happens, I'm still going with another of his choices even if it doesn't appeal as much, Aimee Mann's Deathly. By the way, Magnolia was so lauded at the time, but while I enjoyed it, it did not live up to the hype for me. I saw it in the cinema as I watched a lot of film in the cinema back then. Maybe I should watch it again at some time -- also I could tell my wife wasn't that into it, which always puts me off. I liked it more than her.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2023 at 12:49
^ Thumbs Up  Jarrett and Eno it is!

Thanks to all for participating. The poll is up and open for voting.
I added the playlist to the opening post (Thanks Greg!). Regarding choice of videos, I'll leave it to those who suggested the pieces (I'm fine with it as it is - yes, I'm flexible, sometimes...).

Enjoy, and up to the next one!?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2023 at 11:50
Can I choose two songs?

If two, 

1) Keith Jarrett

2) Brian Eno.

If one, 

Keith Jarrett


Edited by jamesbaldwin - June 12 2023 at 11:50
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^ Will start on that now, not that it will take long, and add Lorenzo's when I can.

Here is the playlist, Lorenzo's still to add.



https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4L2fjTTZ6xeAvIjKGywcl74

Two notes:

1. Scott: Extreme - Play With Me (used in the film Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure). I used the video that Scott posted; however, I wondered if it would be better to present the music as in albums forum rather than an excerpt from the film. Up to you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDWjWfLU2kQ

2. Jean: Piano Concerto in A Minor" by Robert Schumann (used in the film Song of Love). Jean did not post a video, and Kees posted Hepburn playing music from it. This I had thought should be about the music taken from an album release (there are of course many for that famous work). I used that video, the piano concerto is too long for this in full, but I had wondered if I should use another. I could use this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUkj6GQMgR8

I guess you set this series up with rather more flexibility than I would have. If you want any changes to the videos, please let me know. I have stuck with the provided videos (with Lorenzo's first, Keith Jarrett, it again is from the film and the title for it is the film title, but then it seem the film titles will be in the poll)

EDIT: And adding both of Lorenzo's to the playlist. Unlike what some animals would say in Animal Farm in a different context, two is good.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2023 at 10:58
^ Glad I asked... Smile

@Mila: Strange as it may seem, for someone working in the film world, I'm not that much fan of soundtracks isolated from the film (I may have just about 20 soundtracks myself) - they rarely have the same impact for me as stand-alone works as within the film. There are of course - many - exceptions, though.

@Greg: Thanks, and yes, it would be nice if you could make a playlist; we're only waiting for Lorenzo's nominations now.




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Though also well known, my second will be Van Halen - Everybody Wants Some!! from Better Off Dead.
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