Simon & Garfunkel for Prog Folk?

Simon & Garfunkel are truly great, but I cannot link them to prog in any way.

The Dark Elf wrote: Logan wrote: Simon has a fence knob. If Simon had a fence knob He'd be fencing in the morning He'd be fencing in the evening All over this land It's a fence knob of danger It's a fence knob of warning It's a fence knob of love Between my brothers and my sisters All over this land. Ummm...sorry. Was feeling a bit folky this morning.

Simon has a fence knob.

I hardly think that we would be comparing to just five bands for inclusion in Prog Folk. With the English ones I'd sooner compare the case to say Pentangle or The Incredible String Band than Yes or early Jethro Tull (despite JT being included in Prog Folk). I love music by S&G and that should not affect whether I think the music is the kind of progressive folk that I would expect in PA even if it can be progressive in its own way. There is music from the US from the 60s included in Prog Folk (quite a bit in Psyche and other categories). Of course there are precedents to consider.... It's not like the US lacks much representation in PA for 60s to early 70s music.

But does anyone have an idea what the deal with Paul Simon's chrome egg cup is?

moshkito wrote: Hi, This is, by far, one of the saddest things I have ever seen and read.

One of the saddest things you've ever seen and read - is two pages on a forum that you haven' actually bothered to read. Because if you had, you would have noticed that everyone acknowledges their importance, respects them and in fact loves them dearly. Like myself - who can be added to the list of commenters that don't think their musical output has much in common with Prog Folk regardless.

Quite clearly not prog folk. I think if progressive pop was created on PA as another sub genre then they could be considered for that but generally those types of artists (10CC and The Beatles are the most obvious ones) are only under Prog Related or Proto Prog and so not part of the main forum.

Jacob Schoolcraft wrote: ... I agree and I believe that music has no barriers therefore puts a limitation on being accurate at categorizing its style. It's been complicated for Progressive Rock websites to decide on an appropriate method of categorization for everyone. ... I agree and I believe that music has no barriers therefore puts a limitation on being accurate at categorizing its style. It's been complicated for Progressive Rock websites to decide on an appropriate method of categorization for everyone. ... My sympathies go out to people who try and create a coherent Progressive Rock website. Music has no barriers. If you've been a professional musician the whole of your life that becomes a fact merely through your decades of experience.  ...

Ha! I've told you! Prog is pog!

But yeah. The reason for this bump was that I did a search if any PA user has used the slang word "pog" here and apparently no. Only as a misspelling of "prog".

Edited by Hrychu - February 11 2024 at 16:29

Hi,

It was John Simon that played the synthesizer line for "Save The Life Of My Child" not Paul Beaver...My mistake! However I think it's safe to say that S&G consulted with Beaver And Krause regarding their interest in the Moog Synthesizer...just as most musicians living in those times did..such as The Doors, The Byrds, The Beatles, George Martin and so on and so forth as it is documented that Beaver And Krause pioneered the Moog Synthesizer to Rock bands in the 60s. Several musicians consulted with Bob Moog on the usage of its musical capabilities..Wendy Carlos, Mort Garson and others...but Beaver And Krause pushed the synthesizer into Rock Music and as time progressed Progressive Rock with Keith Emerson consulting with Bob Moog regarding what type of sound or control over the instrument that he wanted and Paul Beaver helped design a Moog Synthesizer for him.

Simon And Garfunkel were definitely pursuing that on Bookends through Pop Music. That was a part of history where two particular guys held the key and all the answers to operating the Moog Synthesizer to your own means. It was a social form of expansion in Pop Music, Rock Music, and eventually Progressive Rock music. It was the golden age of Art Rock Music and everybody had a new idea because nothing of that magnitude had ever been invented before had it? No it hadn't ..and as a result bands like Family, The Moody Blues, Caravan, and King Crimson surfaced.

It's obvious that Simon And Garfunkel had an interest in pursuing that path. They crossover into areas of being Progressive and Bookends was thought to be trippy and dark in those times. You have to consider the times. Mort Garson had released the Zodiac album in 67' which was corny, but supposedly influential to the Moody Blues. The song "Old Friends " is rather impressionable particularly in the center section where a string quartet is playing a more Avant-garde sounding line of dissonance and it really distracts from the fact that it's a Simon And Garfunkel album. It is an unusual album.