Abortion

translation: "Jen does not think in accordance of what she should as per our federal masters and is therefore less than a woman. We also will call her insane because she dares to be a woman who expresses freedom of thought instead of marching lockstep with the rest of us"

Yeah, albeit Ginsburg must share the blame for not retiring when Obama asked her to (and Obama tapped two male judges to retire and replaced them with female judges and yet 'the lady' didn't trust him or something).  But really, if people who are pro-choice also had the same awareness of the President and Senate's role in appointing SC judges, this wouldn't have happened.  If the right to abortion is that important, why wouldn't you vote straight Democrat in every general election as well as every mid term?  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

darksinger wrote: Atavachron wrote: darksinger wrote: Nobody is taking away the precious "right" to kill unborn children. It is not even being "snatched" from people-the leak was one opinion from one justice and was leaked because the Democrats need a stalwart position to offset the fact this current administration is a mess. the Democrats need a stalwart position to offset the fact that Republicans are psychotic ... and they got a very good one. The Founders felt abortion was a tool of tyranny. I am of the same mindset

Funny how it's now the other way 'round.

^ I suspect that's all too true.  We all do what we have to.

darksinger wrote: Nobody is taking away the precious "right" to kill unborn children. It is not even being "snatched" from people-the leak was one opinion from one justice and was leaked because the Democrats need a stalwart position to offset the fact this current administration is a mess.

the Democrats need a stalwart position to offset the fact that Republicans are psychotic ... and they got a very good one.

Nobody is taking away the precious "right" to kill unborn children. It is not even being "snatched" from people-the leak was one opinion from one justice and was leaked because the Democrats need a stalwart position to offset the fact this current administration is a mess. 

As far as my opinion on a "right for a woman to decide what to do with her body", my grandmother almost aborted my dad. I love my grandmother dearly. She was a great mom to my dad despite this and she was a wonderful, giving person. They had abortion back then. It was a poisonous pill of some sort. But had she gone through with it, she would have made a decision for so far five other people's bodies. So, I do not view abortion as "my body, my choice". I view it as "other people's bodies, my choice", because five of us did not have a say in the matter.

With that said, I am not entirely against abortion because I do not feel a rape victim should be forced to carry her attacker's child or if a child is going to be born with defects that will only cause the child to live briefly and in pain, the parents should have a right to not let the child suffer. I do not hate women who get abortions because I feel they felt that was their only viable option and they had a hard decision to make. What I do hate is the marketing of abortion as if it is a soft drink with "cute" slogans such as "shout your abortion" and pretty spokespeople presenting some deluded nonsense-abortion is a serious decision! Often the women who get one are affected psychologically by it. It is not a style or an image. I also hate the politicizing of this leak over it-a person chose to violate the policies and procedures of the SCOTUS to leak a single draft of a single opinion from a single justice as a way to intimidate the SCOTUS to not do its duty of interpreting the Constitution.