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    Posted: December 09 2024 at 10:40
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

ITTLWRW in my view is his best solo effort. I'm not that much of a lyrics listener, but the music works very well for me. 


I myself was underwhelmed by it. It sounded to me like a Pink Floyd album, but without Wright's atmosphere nor Gilmour's instrumental passages, and I really feel the album would be much better if they had helped Waters with it. I guess it's like Watered down Pink Floyd (of course one could say the same of many Gilmour albums, and even his Pink Floyd albums), and this would be the one album of his in which this issue becomes apparent, his other albums sounded rather like his own thing without much Pink Floyd connection (besides the obvious fact that he WAS an important element of the band). For me, his best album is easily Amused to Death.


To me ITTLWRW sounded reminiscent of 'The Final Cut' but without Gilmour or Mason to add some gravitas to it.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

 
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For me, his best album is easily Amused to Death.

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Agreed ... although I'm not sure I would ignore RADIO KAOS ... as it was too close to home, and in Santa Barbara we could hear KMET at night easily enough .... but what happened was downright evil and malicious and never got punished at all, and it should have been, if the FCC was run by people instead of the same jerkoffs that made the call in LA, and all of it was because they lost a lawsuit to the local bands that required air time ... but the FCC had made a stipulation many years earlier that a new ownership was allowed their own ideas, not what was there previously, and thus, when the massive corporate FM radio rape took place (all of it was bought by many corporate groups), and the music immediately changed to what has been known as "classic rock" for 45 years ... and we still don't care.

(And hope the internet changes all that!) ... not there yet, but so much of the internet is owned by the corporate standards ... that it makes a lot of independent stuff hard to get to.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

ITTLWRW in my view is his best solo effort. I'm not that much of a lyrics listener, but the music works very well for me. 


I myself was underwhelmed by it. It sounded to me like a Pink Floyd album, but without Wright's atmosphere nor Gilmour's instrumental passages, and I really feel the album would be much better if they had helped Waters with it. I guess it's like Watered down Pink Floyd (of course one could say the same of many Gilmour albums, and even his Pink Floyd albums), and this would be the one album of his in which this issue becomes apparent, his other albums sounded rather like his own thing without much Pink Floyd connection (besides the obvious fact that he WAS an important element of the band). For me, his best album is easily Amused to Death.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

ITTLWRW in my view is his best solo effort. I'm not that much of a lyrics listener, but the music works very well for me. 

Hi,

The music itself is always really nice ... no question there. However, getting hit over the head with his mouth frying pan gets a bit boring after a while, and at that point I tune it out ... and haven't really bothered with him, since I got a chance to see his version of The Wall, here in POrtland, done in 2-dimentional style, and a terrible design all around for the production, considering how it was originally set in a few cities. This was the cheap version ... and very sad having seen the original.

His wanting to "update it" was bad, and that's when his frying pan started to sound out ... and it hasn't stopped since.

Instead of engaging folks in anger, he should try and help folks vote, in America, but then, he thinks there is no choice here either, and would not waste his time, on something that is actually a lot more meaningful than his frying pan! And his comment about Mrs. Harris, is not nice ... and he obviously is not as on top of it, and knowing what is happening in some places, as he thinks he is .... 

While there is a place for anti-war anything, in the end, half of it is not good, and ends up getting more people wanting to go fight, than otherwise. Or it gets the cynical side of things ... when you hear what Maria Betania's song was about ... and then see it shown on Apocaliptyc Now ... it's difficult to see that this is anti-war sentiment ... nope ... it is a kill'em'all NOW! .... which is worse! ... not to mention that in her song, one could easily connect it with Brazilian History and the violent Portuguese, Spanish and Dutch!


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ITTLWRW in my view is his best solo effort. I'm not that much of a lyrics listener, but the music works very well for me. 
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3 stars 2017: Roger Waters - Is This the Life We Really Want - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mPigivZV2DMiN4zZXBZyuFIWJeIZ4PfJY

Roger Waters harping on about war and politics again? Sounds like Deja Vu to me. Smile

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3 stars 2017: Roger Waters - Is This the Life We Really Want - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mPigivZV2DMiN4zZXBZyuFIWJeIZ4PfJY

You may be forgiven for thinking Roger has gone all soppy and romantic in his later years, but no, "Wait for Her" is the tragic story of the 3-year-old Syrian refugee whose body was discovered washed up on a Turkish beach in 2015. Ouch

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3 stars 2017: Roger Waters - Is This the Life We Really Want - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mPigivZV2DMiN4zZXBZyuFIWJeIZ4PfJY

Is this the album we really want!?? A gloomy album - even by Roger's maudlin standards - about the plight of child refugees being killed in political turmoil around the world. Ouch



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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I actually agreed with her. Then she sung "Breakthrough" on Broken China. Sooner or later I'll dig her music more.

Me, too. 
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I actually agreed with her. Then she sung "Breakthrough" on Broken China. Sooner or later I'll dig her music more.

Me, too. 
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5 stars 2020: Roger Waters - Us + Them - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiUeWr3oVtc

Roger Waters wakes up and Smells the Roses whilst taking a break from being the Middle East peace envoy. Tongue

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Nothing compares to Sinead O'Connor's bitterness, especially when it comes to Roger Waters, the Catholic Church and The Pope. Tongue


I actually agreed with her. Then she sung "Breakthrough" on Broken China. Sooner or later I'll dig her music more.
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5 stars 2022: Roger Waters - The Lockdown Sessions - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kHSppQrHjZrehfvgTQBS9nwG9b-dCKqZE

Jolly Roger is back with another sunny song to cheer us all up from The Lockdown Sessions. Thankfully, the video finishes promptly this time, before Roger has a chance to go off on another political rant. Tongue



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5 stars 1990: Roger Waters - The Wall - Live in Berlin - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyGHs2yXwu1Sg4DXha46hfqGs6LarGe8w

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^ Nothing compares to Sinead O'Connor's bitterness, especially when it comes to Roger Waters, the Catholic Church and The Pope. Tongue

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

5 stars 1990: Roger Waters - The Wall - Live in Berlin - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyGHs2yXwu1Sg4DXha46hfqGs6LarGe8w

Roger Waters, Sinead O'Connor and The Band in the Mother of all collaborations. Smile


Sinead O’Connor loathed him, really an intense dislike, to the extent that I believe she didn’t show up for the re-recording of the first part of the show after the technical issues which dogged it.
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5 stars 1990: Roger Waters - The Wall - Live in Berlin - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyGHs2yXwu1Sg4DXha46hfqGs6LarGe8w

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5 stars 2023: Roger Waters - This is Not a Drill: Live in Prague - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDXojvpCl2I

Roger Waters - Doing his bit for the Middle East Peace Process in Prague. Whatever next!?? Tony Blair as  Middle East Peace Envoy? No, that would be ridiculous!! Tongue

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^ Maybe when I wrote that intro I had in mind "Mind, Body & Sole" - a local shoe repair shop. Tongue
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

 
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Roger Waters - Give Birth to a Smile Smile, from the soundtrack album, Music from the Mind & Body (1970), featuring Ron Geesin & the other three members of Pink Floyd on this final song from the album.
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Disgraceful ... that you would ignore the best song in there ... "Our Song" ... making all the others sound silly and shmoozy!

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It was "Music from the Body" the mind was somewhere else, probably. It's a soundtrack of a documentary entitled "The Body" that I was lucky enough to see on TV a life ago. I have a vinyl copy.
"Our Song" has nice instruments, but Geesin's piano is better than the others 
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