10cc vs Steely Dan - Progressive Rock Music Forum

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Icarium wrote:

Fischman wrote:

Saperlipopette! wrote:

Icarium wrote:

I'm Not in Love is a gorgeous song, a textbook example of celestial harmony. It is also textbook example on etherial soundscapes

Ok but does textbook examples make for the greatest art? And is it really a texbook example of celestial harmony?

Or it's just an example of gratuitously indulgent warbling in a rather transparent attempt to overwhelm sappy listeners with faux pathos.

That was a hit "next" in a millisecond or less song for me. Can't understand a prog fan purring up with all that saccharine sap.

some pieces of music transcends genrefication we normaly attach to pieces of art. This particular piece is lacking the structure normaly known to describe the popular formula of pop. Art pop and progressive pop has become more and more a tag also rutinly taken in and defkned in wikipedia. I think in 100 years I'm Not in Love will be rememberd and hailed in high regard, almost like classical music or jazz standard, standard of art pop/rock

My post had nothing to do with whatever genre label someone may choose to put on a song.

I'm curious how your crystal ball predicts such a future for the song. Its never been held in that high regard, even when it was a hit and since only continues to fall further in obscurity.

10cc has better musicianship IMHO and funnier lyrics. Hard to top that.

"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno

Saperlipopette! wrote:

Icarium wrote:

I'm Not in Love is a gorgeous song, a textbook example of celestial harmony. It is also textbook example on etherial soundscapes

Ok but does textbook examples make for the greatest art? And is it really a texbook example of celestial harmony?

Or it's just an example of gratuitously indulgent warbling in a rather transparent attempt to overwhelm sappy listeners with faux pathos.

That was a hit "next" in a millisecond or less song for me. Can't understand a prog fan purring up with all that saccharine sap.

I'm Not in Love is a gorgeous song, a textbook example of celestial harmony. It is also textbook example on etherial soundscapes

Love both

Manuel wrote:

Again, my vote goes to Steely Dan.

This...

He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore

Steely Dan............though I have always liked many of the tracks by 10cc.

In my case I always thought of 10cc as a kind of British version of Dan.

One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin

Hi,

10CC deserves some credit here, but the sad thing is that a lot of its material is very much English Humor and Americans tend to not listen to English humor and only enjoy slapstick and crap lines as shown on Prime Shame TV.

The rest of the comedy gets wasted and thrown out, because of a silly laugh track ... that basically tells you what is supposed to be laughed at and you don't know any better! And English satires on this already go back to THE GOONS, who used to play on almost every show with the audience, something that we can not appreciate much, because it's all in the mind, you know, and we're used to BEING TOLD, and not have to figure it out ourselves!

This is not to take away anything from Sleepy Pan, and their very nice songs, but sometimes this is like saying that 10CC's songs were boring and did not have "personality" ... which is not true at all ... their albums simply did not sell in America like Speely Nap did, and thus, it's not surprising that folks here (from this side of the ocean?) would like Snappy Lan better!

And if there was any doubt about the talent and artistic work, of the members of 10CC, maybe it should be shown to folks here how much work they did in film, theater, and other arts ... because the folks in Steely And did not exactly seem to have been involved in as much, comparatively speaking.

So, we're saying we don't like "artists", and that "songsters" are better? What's the comparison based on? Favoritism and Fan-dom?

Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Of all the Steely Dan vs. X so far, this X is the weakest.

Poll Question: Which band do you prefer?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
10cc	17	[34.69%]
Steely Dan	28	[57.14%]
Both equally	3	[6.12%]
Neither	1	[2.04%]
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