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    Posted: August 06 2023 at 13:19
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Robert Wyatt I guess 2 stars is better than one.

Yes, Robert Wyatt is quite literally at the rock bottom of my list, but at least a two star rating is not quite rock bottom, if you follow my meaning. Anyway, it's my favourite Robert Wyatt album, if "favourite" is the right word - probably the least disliked would be more accurate. Wink


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^Robert Wyatt I guess 2 stars is better than one.
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Daevid Allen

  Best:- 4 stars 1977: Now is the Happiest Time of Your Life - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfzHH9Ab83_eJFHQc_jqWNiIOj33nJZuQ


David Bowie




Tim Buckley




Kate Bush




Edgar Froese




Steve Hackett




Steve Hillage


Worst:- 2 stars 1979: Rainbow Dome Music - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09B2gn5OhKg


Jean Michel Jarre

  Best:- 5 stars 2000: Live in Cairo: Twelve Dreams of the Sun - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTpyqAyFlQ

Worst:-  1983: Music for Supermarkets - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVIblDQqTcw


Mike Oldfield




Vangelis




Rick Wakeman

  Best:-  1975: The Myths & Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL98Z8Hc6f785ZTdLw1irsAtM94YHjB9ct

Worst:-  1991: A World of Wisdom (with Norman Wisdom) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4lRn9zoy45INxtvGKmEcROApkfd0NL_k


Robert Wyatt




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Zappa: fave - One Size Fits All
Least fave - Thing Fish

Rundgren: fave - A Wizard, a True Star
Least fave - No World Order

Bowie: fave - Ziggy Stardust
Least fave - Never Let Me Down

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  Best:-  1975: The Myths & Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL98Z8Hc6f785ZTdLw1irsAtM94YHjB9ct

Worst:-  1991: A World of Wisdom (with Norman Wisdom) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4lRn9zoy45INxtvGKmEcROApkfd0NL_k
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Originally posted by Braka Braka wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Beefheart: Trout Mask Replica - Bluejeans & Moonbeams


It's hard for me to pick between 'Bluejeans' and 'Unconditionally Guaranteed'. They're conspicuously and easily his worst albums (I'd say probably his only poor ones), but I think 'Guaranteed' is just marginally worse. I think there's one song on 'Bluejeans' that I sorta like (and I like the cover)

Best is a lot harder. 'Trout Mask' is the obvious candidate, but 'Lick My Decals Off, Baby' and 'Doc at the Radar Station' are damn close.
Both albums are not totally bad for me, for example I like "Party Of Special Things To Do" and his version of Cale´s " Same Old Blues". "Captain´s Holiday" is his worst song. But I think "Unconditionally" as a whole has more the mean Magic Band touch that "Bluejeans" (in Bluejeans there are no old Magic Band members).

Yes, those three are his greatest, really love also "Ice Cream For Crow" & "Strictly Personal".
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Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

Fishbest- Raingods with Zippos.  worst  -Suits

Suits is my favorite LOL

He's never released a bad album, I'd say his covers albums is my least favorite (Songs from the Mirror)
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Fishbest- Raingods with Zippos.  worst  -Suits
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Beefheart: Trout Mask Replica - Bluejeans & Moonbeams


It's hard for me to pick between 'Bluejeans' and 'Unconditionally Guaranteed'. They're conspicuously and easily his worst albums (I'd say probably his only poor ones), but I think 'Guaranteed' is just marginally worse. I think there's one song on 'Bluejeans' that I sorta like (and I like the cover)

Best is a lot harder. 'Trout Mask' is the obvious candidate, but 'Lick My Decals Off, Baby' and 'Doc at the Radar Station' are damn close.


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Roine Stolt: The Flower King - Wallstreet VooDoo
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How I forgot these:
Pekka Pohjola: Harakka Bialoipokku - Flight Of the Angel
Jukka Gustavson: Valon Vuoksi - Moments
Jim Pembroke: Wicked Ivory - Flat Broke
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^A good entry, and thanks for understanding the nature of the thread. I should have named it "Solo Albums'" instead of "Solo Artists'".
"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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A repeat from the other thread:
Allan Holdsworth: IOU/Metal Fatigue >>> Wardenclyffe Tower
Miles Davis: In a Silent Way>>>Doo Bop

New entries:
Steve Howe: Turbulence>>>Portraits of Bob Dylan
Steve Hackett: Voyage of the Acolyte>>>Guitar Noir
Steve Hillage: Fish Rising>>>For to Next>>>And Not Or
John Wetton: Raised in Captivity>>>Battle Lines
Ian Anderson: Homo Erraticus>>>Walk Into Light
Rik Wakeman: The Six Wives of Henry VIII>>>Aspirant Sunrise
Jeff Beck: Blow by Blow>>>Flash
Steve Walsh: Shadowman>>>Schemer-Dreamer


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Sorry for all that. Now back to business... off the top of my head:

Miles Davis 
best: Big Fun
worst: You're Under Arrest

Catherine Ribeiro 
best: N°2
worst: La Déboussole

Igor Wakhévitch
best: Docteur Faust
worst: Être Dieu

Btw: best is more like most listened to. Its not like Big Fun is better than Bitches Brew - worst was far easier.


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^well I am an actual full time artist - you're not... and jeez no - its not about "spending my time coping with criticism" haha that is what the butthurt artist would do. But genuine artists shouldn't need your-or anyone's protection from criticism. There's no need to be evil just for the sake of it. But thinking, saying or writing that Bluejeans & Moonbeams is one of Captain Beefhearts weaker efforts isn't evil. I'd say anyone who tried to hide that truth from the Capt'n wasn't a real friend or doing his art any favours.

And you don't have to state that you feel above the rest to get that point across. Doesn't matter to me if you don't personally feel like you're that type of person. I read your posts and this is how your tone towards others make you appear. So if you're not comfortable with that - take my criticism and see if there's maybe a tiny ounce of truth to it that you can admit to - and change your tone.

-And that socialist rubbish of yours doesn't make any sense at all. Socialism is cultural relativist = more like you than people who allow themselves to consider some piece of art better than another piece of art. 


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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

The only ugly thing here is Moshkito feeling that his approach to art is superior to everyone elses. An artist learning to cope with criticism equals learning to grow. Its healthy. Shutting down and getting your feelings hurt won't help you pushing things forward at all. 
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To a point!

AND, I HAVE NEVER STATED OR THOUGHT THAT MY IDEAS AND COMMENTS WERE MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOURS. IF ANYTHING IT'S ABOUT PERSPECTIVE, not to mention that most are not strong enough to show their own art, even here, and prove the point ... you can not create by listening to anyone else ... you have to listen to YOU!

So, please, stop this "socialist" point of view that you comments speak for the masses and you are right and an individualist, like me, is wrong.

Do that to your child and he/she will likely never paint again, or play another song again!

You intimidate the process and the inner learning with it. You end up making many folks super conscious of what they have done, and hurt some of their inner process. This is the main reason why so many "artists" separate themselves from the "public", because of insensitive comments that have absolutely nothing to do with the art itself, but the jealousy thereof!

My criticism, is not about you per se, or anyone else!

It is about improving our study and commentary about progressive music, and helping it establish it in the pantheon of music history ... sometimes it sounds like just another top ten fan, defending a song they like ... it has nothing to do with the music itself, and above all, with the artist at all!

YOU ARE NOT AN ARTIST IF YOU SPEND YOUR TIME COPING WITH THE CRITICISM ... IN FACT ... YOU WILL LIKELY NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE ... or you can become a Warhol and finger everyone and their "ideas" about art! That seems to make better sense!


Edited by moshkito - September 18 2018 at 07:29
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2018 at 04:33
The only ugly thing here is Moshkito feeling that his approach to art is superior to everyone elses. An artist learning to cope with criticism equals learning to grow. Its healthy. Shutting down and getting your feelings hurt won't help you pushing things forward at all. 

I've seen my share of former "great" artists surrounded by people that will never tell them their true opinion about their much inferior recent works. Its how we got Bono, Jar-Jar Binks, figurative works by Damien Hirst mm...

  

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^I really love Lionheart, my big favourites from her right after Kick Inside, the Dreaming, Never For Ever & Hounds Of Love. I think also her last two albums are in the same level.
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