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Woon Deadn
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I have created the thread Ukrainian Prog. Welcome!
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Woon Deadn
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Russian hybrid of Apocalyptica and Vanessa Mae. Plus to that (politics truly can't escape me), their blond leader is a member of the Communist Party. Why I mentioned it? Because it obviously affects their repertoire and is simply an unusual feature for a young Russian woman.
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Woon Deadn
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I personally am always feel ashamed for the occupation of Eastern Europe committed by the USSR. There perhaps were several rare good fruits of the Socialist course in those countries, but for the most part it was a terrible mistake. Meanhile, I have no doubt that Lenin was a pretty decent theoretician, philosopher, thinker, scientist. I have totally different views on it all, because it was MY country, my motherland, my birthplace. For Slovakia it was definitely an invader, an occupier, an enemy. Not anti-Slovak/anti-Slavic like Hitler - but an enemy. Many former Soviet citizens looked at their past jokingly, yet with shades of nostalgia. It's hardly very much the same in Slovakia. There is even a modern day Russian TV channel called Nostalgiya where I once noticed GG's Spooky Boogie playing in some Perestroika era Soviet TV program... |
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Slovak freedom fighter is more like it! Our Slovak hosts giggled, nervously, when I posed with Vlad!
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Woon Deadn
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As you know I'm a prominent musician of cult status - so, sure, it's all my life, these guitars. Jokes left behind, when I was very very small, I liked to visit the Music Goods shop in my native city. There I saw guitars, drum sets, castanets, accordions, flutes and tons of vinyl recordings. Nowadays there's a bank in that building. Where there were vinyls are now young women with long legs. Not a trace of vinyl! It's all nylon and leather these days...
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^Honestly, I'd go Tennessee-Walmart-On-A-Black-Friday for one of those 7-string classicals.
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Just as a total aside (and I think Woon Deadn might remember these).....
Ladies and gentlemen, the horrors which are Soviet era electric guitars. How any music emerged from the USSR is beyond me. ;-) https://reverb.com/uk/news/guide-to-soviet-era-guitars |
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Woon Deadn
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I understood your joke, for sure. I wasn't offended. Quite the opposite. Perhaps my answer was even targeted at the people you had answered to, not at you. Just said that in certain contexts, in certain situations Ukrainian art and its creators may fit in the Russian category easily. The overwhelming majority of Soviet crooners and a decent 50-60% of all Soviet and current Russian POP performers were/are from Ukraine. I mean, there was for example a great Soviet cartoon of the late 1980s Treasure Island, with live action, funny songs, and so. At first when I saw in on the Net with the description "Russian cartoon" I also wanted to make remarks, correct the authors of the description. Then I realized that the cartoon was made in Russian language, there was even one Armenian and lots of Jews all along... It was equally Russian, you know. Then there's the situation with the well known in our lands Ukrainian comic troupe Maski (from Odessa, Ukraine). They became famous due to series of short half-hour movies, made by the Moscow studios, sponsored by Russian businessmen and primarily broadcasted on the Russian TV. So, well, they fit in the Russian artistes category, as well. They are even more natural in that category for they speak only Russian and never seemed to convey the modern day Ukrainian geopolitical narrative. To the music - to the music, that is! The title song of Maski Show TV series Edited by Woon Deadn - May 28 2020 at 09:07 |
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There were more mainstream, more popular occasionally-prog bands that may or may not be of some interest to you: This album by Zvuki Mu below was produced by Brian Eno: Gusliar by the band Pesniary: Song Of Fate by the same authors (modern day performance below): I like the band NOM: |
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^I was making a joke. My intention wasn't too offend anyone. Anyway, let's move on and as suggested get back on topic(to the music).
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Woon Deadn
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I feel that I am going to start a new world war local to this thread, but the whole Russia-Ukraine issue is not that obvious. Certainly, there are numerous problems in Russia, and Ukraine has its on culture, language... Still, there are many Ukrainians who at least want to be friends with Russians. There are racists in Russia, but there are also racists in Ukraine who, for example, used to say that Russians are not enough Slavs because they are a mix of Finno-Ugric tribes and Asian nomads. As if Finns, Hungarians and Asian people are subhuman... As if Finland is not a civilised country... As if Maidan in Kiev is not a word of Turkic origin, meidan... Nowadays Ukraine is at conflict with Russia and I don't want to become the victim of that conflict... So, I can only say that the whole issue is very complex from adult point of view, mature point of view. The Soviet crooner that I posted first (and then removed) in that my post above, was from Odessa, Ukraine. He spent all his years in the superstar status in Russia, Moscow. Is he a Russian or Ukrainian legend? He is a Soviet Jew who came from the Soviet Ukraine to the Soviet Russia within the borders of the same one country, the USSR. I have no doubt that he was totally Russian- (and probably a bit Yiddish-)speaking, he has not spoken a word in Ukrainian in his whole life. He did not identify himself with Ukraine as the country. So... Again, I live in a democratic country, but I do not want to become a surrepticious victim of the current ongoing conflict between our countries. So, I'd better stop.
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^ nice pic! Soviet spy are you? hehe
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Original Poster here, thank you for this! Here I am, posing with my "evil twin" Vladimir Ilyich Lenin in Bratislava, Slovakia (back then it was Czechoslovakia) in the Gorbachev years. Young lads seemed to like wearing Western heavy metal logo clothes like Judas Priest etc. I saw "Metallica" spray-painted on an ancient fence in the birthplace of my paternal grandfather and knew that Soviet style communism was likely finished. |
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Well, no not quite. Maybe they shouldn't be lumped together though just like Finland shouldn't be lumped together with Scandinavia.
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well, it's like saying Philly is in Australia or something
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^ Those pesky Ukranians.
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Woon - I'm a hige fan of Vezhilvy Otkaz & Pikapika Teart and to a lesser extent Vesparo & Auktyon, any reco's on where to explore next?
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There's really no problem. I think I wanted to be extra broad on the topic, ranging from the very beginning of the proto-proto-prog to the avant-garde of Zvuki Mu. I was too broad, I must say. And it's really nice that somebody can tell me to calm down. I mean, really nice! There was so much prog-tinged folk in the USSR, there naturally a question appears whether a certain band has enough depth of its shade of progressiveness. I also understand the lyrics and its dear to me and I thus think it's all too prog. Like, I used to listen to Queen's ANATO for years without knowing the lyrics. It was just additional sounds to me. Without lyrics the songs lose per cents of their charm - at least, in case of Queen. Life is too complex. No problem in minor problems. At least, I have read the biography of Gaius Suetonius Tranquilllus. |
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