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Poll Question: Is man-made greenhouse warming a hoax/ conspiracy?
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When discussing global warming it is astounding how many people deny it's even a globe. Go easy on deniers. They are at least halfway there.

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So much sexism. Woman-made global warming is a thing, too.

But of course since male idiots have been the ones running everything most of the time I guess they have a pass.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

They are mere free range slaves like all of us


A turn of phrase to die for Clap

Yes, I believe in man-made global warming but also believe that taxing producers with a large carbon footprint merely passes the cost onto the consumer.
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I grew up in LA in the 70's, vividly remember smog alerts in school, walking home and not being able to breathe well....Today that is not the case.

I have been to all the places many times that Ivan posted and agree it is bad, very bad in other countries.

We see pictures of the industrial era and the black billowing smoke going upwards.....Did it harm the ozone layer?? Dunno, but if it did I can only suspect it repaired itself, again dunno. Earth is pretty amazing.....

I think we will run out of food before the ozone layer fails and we die from heat/radiation exposure from the sun.

Thank God I will be worm food when/if that happens.
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Ah, bless.
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no i dont belive in some nonsense
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Man indeed has proved to be a sort of catalyst, the illegal burning of forest and the animal species extinction being amongst the most common characteristics of the Sixth Mass Extinction. But...
In the year 2009, a team of MIT scientists recorded a nearly simultaneous world-wide increase in methane levels - the first increase in ten years. What baffled the team is that this data contradicts theories stating humans are the primary source of increase in greenhouse gas. It takes about one full year for gases generated in the highly industrial northern hemisphere to cycle through and reach the southern hemisphere. Since all worldwide levels rose simultaneously throughout the same year, however, it is probable that this may be part of a natural cycle - and not the direct result of man's contributions.




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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Tillerman88 Tillerman88 wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

We are a sort of catalyst. It is also true that we are entering a more energetic sector of the galaxy and the fact is that EVERY planet in our solar system is also experiencing changes in their atmospheric tendencies. The problem is that it is super complex and that science is indeed very much hijacked for the sake of poltical manipulation and to be skewed for money making endeavors (hear that carbon traders?) that create a huge misty cloud of confusion for the scientific illiterates of the world (hello USA! do you hear me?)

Clap It took 5 pages 'till someone come up here posting at last what sums up my thoughts. And I would add China to the major portion of the cake, less than half a century of globalisation and we are already seeing the damn effects on their political relationships.

Yes, China is a major player but what is not publisized is that they are FORCED like every other country of the world to play this fossil fuel capitalist game through the sheer force of US militarism. Keep in mind that countries that DO NOT play this game are deemed terrorists such as Iran, North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. The truth is that they have not tied their currency to the Wall St controlled US dollar and that is a no no. These are truly the dark riders of the current age and have no empathy for life on earth. Do not blame China for being forced into the game. They are mere free range slaves like all of us
 
Yeah you keep pointing REAL facts here. And that will continue to happen,  because it is a way the people who are responsible for the management duties find as an effective, useful and easier resource for undergoing their politics. After all, it is indeed a lot easier managing people who don't have critical sense nor the ability to take a decision by his own.
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Originally posted by Tillerman88 Tillerman88 wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

We are a sort of catalyst. It is also true that we are entering a more energetic sector of the galaxy and the fact is that EVERY planet in our solar system is also experiencing changes in their atmospheric tendencies. The problem is that it is super complex and that science is indeed very much hijacked for the sake of poltical manipulation and to be skewed for money making endeavors (hear that carbon traders?) that create a huge misty cloud of confusion for the scientific illiterates of the world (hello USA! do you hear me?)

Clap It took 5 pages 'till someone come up here posting at last what sums up my thoughts. And I would add China to the major portion of the cake, less than half a century of globalisation and we are already seeing the damn effects on their political relationships.

Yes, China is a major player but what is not publisized is that they are FORCED like every other country of the world to play this fossil fuel capitalist game through the sheer force of US militarism. Keep in mind that countries that DO NOT play this game are deemed terrorists such as Iran, North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. The truth is that they have not tied their currency to the Wall St controlled US dollar and that is a no no. These are truly the dark riders of the current age and have no empathy for life on earth. Do not blame China for being forced into the game. They are mere free range slaves like all of us

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Think I'll go into merchanising Hawaiian Shirt with T-Rump logo's on them, should sell well above the Arctic circle..... Embarrassed

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^^I never said that it doesn't have a terrible effect on climate, and yes it's a political issue in the sense of needing regulation. Again, I had a poor choice of words. I was simply trying to say that politics can get in the way of what's true, with many politicians using real issues to their advantage (On both sides).

It's absurd to believe that global warming isn't real, as is believing that the mountain tops should have been free of ice by 2015/2016.


I'M so GLAD you SEE thingz THAT way. WE are in A time of EARTHLY crisis BUT yer RITE that WE politics is RUINING evERYThing
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Originally posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:

So your not worried about the Antarctic Ice?


Heavens no! I am not at all worried about the Antarctic ice, because it's too far south to concern me. And it's very dense ice, not unlike some posters on this forum.
Arctic ice by and large does not sit over land. If it melts, it will not raise sea level (Greenland's ice, though, is one serious exception). Antarctic ice sits over a continent, and, if it melts, it will raise sea levels - everywhere.

Like I said the darkest Ice is the densest LOL
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^^I never said that it doesn't have a terrible effect on climate, and yes it's a political issue in the sense of needing regulation. Again, I had a poor choice of words. I was simply trying to say that politics can get in the way of what's true, with many politicians using real issues to their advantage (On both sides).

It's absurd to believe that global warming isn't real, as is believing that the mountain tops should have been free of ice by 2015/2016.


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^ amen, Ivan.

Los Angeles used to be the same and BECAUSE of regulations set forth by the EPA we can now see the mountains around the city! The solutions may indeed be complex but the evidence is so overwhelming and damning about our contributions to the problem that our species deserves the ultimate Ostrich head in the Sand Award. BTW, most scientists agree that we are now in the 6th mass extinction of the planet due to human  activities so UNLESS you have a degree in the sciences your opinion about this matter is MEANINGLESS

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Originally posted by Pastmaster Pastmaster wrote:


Honestly, global warming has been essentially turned into political psychosis rather than science. Yes, there's absolutely scientific proof that humans have had an effect on climate change since The Industrial Age, but it's turned into a political issue. It shouldn't be, as it has nothing to do with politics and is purely science, hence why it can be hard to have an actual scientific debate about the issue.

Politicians need to get out of the scientific world, so actual science can be presented without bias and agenda. 

Have you ever gone to Santiago?

I have

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You can't breathe and temperature is almost 2 degrees over normal

Have you gone to Mexico City

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The same

China

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Don't tell me this doesn't have a terrible effect on climate.

Don't tell me it's not a political issue.


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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

33.33% of the people here think man-made global warming isn't real. 

Well I guess Trump could also become main super-Admin of ProgArchives after all. 

No T, at least 4 out of the 13 votes have been posted by mistake, due the misleading question.
            
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A more injuring insult I have never received. 


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Okay , The T-Rump.
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