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altaeria
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Topic: Am I reading this correctly? Posted: October 02 2012 at 14:26 |
Am I reading this correctly? According to the ProgArchives " TOP PROG ALBUMS" (of all-time) list, ANGLAGARD has TWO (!!) albums ranked in the top 13 ... yet ELP barely squeezed one album in at # 75 ?? Is this like one of those goofy Rolling Stone Magazine lists? Oh-- and has anybody told BIG BIG TRAIN that they apparently recorded the #20 greatest Prog album of all-time ??? I'm sure the band and their 167 fans worldwide will be totally psyched !!!
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 14:28 |
u mad bro
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thellama73
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 14:28 |
It's a well known fact that prog fans have terrible taste in music.
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rdtprog
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 14:31 |
Maybe ELP is not as progressive as you think they are
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Padraic
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 14:32 |
altaeria wrote:
Is this like one of those goofy Rolling Stone Magazine lists?
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Yes, except more math and less snark.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 14:32 |
Maybe ELP are not as good as you think they are?
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CPicard
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 14:32 |
Pro Tip: check out this "TOP PROG ALBUMS" chart next week. The figures may change.
It's magical.
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Gallifrey
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 14:57 |
Wait and Viljans Oga will drop. It's the massive high votes of the fanboys that get it there. It normally drops after a while. Steven Wilson's Grace For Drowning peaked at 12, Anathema's Weather Systems got at least in the top 30, so it's a regular pattern.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 15:03 |
Remember, it's interactive. If you don't like how something's rated, go ahead and do something about it -- submit a rating, or (better yet) write a review. People do read them. These rankings are nothing but the sum total of the opinions of people just like you and me.
I would, however, caution against "retaliatory" rating, which is giving extreme scores to things solely as an attempt to manipulate the ratings. Be honest.
Edited by HolyMoly - October 02 2012 at 15:05
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 15:20 |
Padraic wrote:
altaeria wrote:
Is this like one of those goofy Rolling Stone Magazine lists?
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Yes, except more math and less snark. |
What do you mean when you say "snark" ?
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Rutgers Joe
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 15:26 |
Tell some of your old fart friends to join the site.
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ScorchedFirth
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 15:32 |
Well no matter how the top 100 is ordered there will be somebody really angry about it. Personally I would have put a lot of things higher/lower too. Then again the list is meant to reflect the general opinion, and for the most part it does this (some nuance to it though, with vote manipulation, and varying causes for people to bother rating something skewing rating).
Having said that, I'd be lying If I said I wasn't quite surprised(/annoyed) at some results myself though. Still, did this really need its own post?
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rdtprog
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 15:33 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Padraic wrote:
altaeria wrote:
Is this like one of those goofy Rolling Stone Magazine lists?
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Yes, except more math and less snark. |
What do you mean when you say "snark" ?
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He must mean by that "sarcastic", and that Rolling stones magazine is sarcastic
Edited by rdtprog - October 02 2012 at 15:34
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sleeper
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 15:34 |
There's always somebody that thinks they know better. And just for the record, I'd take Anglagard over ELP any day.
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richardh
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 16:05 |
Hybris deserves it but Viljans Oga is pretty average imo. 20 years on to record a slightly inferior version of the same sort of thing (ambient symph prog)
ELP = Prog Marmite
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 16:09 |
richardh wrote:
ELP = Prog Marmite |
I've never tasted "Marmite". Is it good?
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HolyMoly
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 16:11 |
It's yeast, isn't it? Far out.
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 16:13 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
richardh wrote:
ELP = Prog Marmite | I've never tasted "Marmite". Is it good? |
It's like charts that don't really matter. it depends upon the taster
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JonnyM79
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 16:15 |
1) The "average" views of all prog fans on this site do not correspond exactly to your own views. And this annoys you why?
2) Have you actually listened to any of the albums you object to (I certainly suspect not given the comments in your post)? I haven't heard the most recent Anglagard so have no idea whether it should be there or not, however Hybris has stayed solidly in the Top 20 for many years and was released in 1992. It's hardly a flash in the pan or the effect of having been heard only by fan-boys. It's there because a lot of people like it.
3) The albums you object to seem to be anything not from the 1970s. Strange and sad that you consider only work from a particular decade can deserve the mantle of a Top Prog Album.
As I rate English Electric by Big Big Train as the best prog release I've heard in the last 20 years I am angry that it's so low. Does my anger cancel out yours?
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thellama73
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Posted: October 02 2012 at 17:04 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
richardh wrote:
ELP = Prog Marmite | I've never tasted "Marmite". Is it good? |
I'm the only American I know who likes it. Can we please derail this thread into being all about Marmite? That would make me so happy.
Edited by thellama73 - October 02 2012 at 17:06
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