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RoyFairbank
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Topic: Could a Tunisia Type Event Happen In Your Country? Posted: January 27 2011 at 20:36 |
Could barely fit what I wanted
So I supplied two soft answers and two hard answers, rather than just yes or no. Edited by RoyFairbank - January 27 2011 at 20:38 |
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 20:41 |
There are not many people from the vulnerable developing countries on PA. We have some PA members from Iran, which already had a strong civil unrest at the last elections. But I don't know anyone here from Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, Yemen, etc. We have trackstoni from Jordan if I'm not wrong (hope he's well).
BTW here's a Google map of the unrest around the world (the fire and policemen icons; the cash icons are about financial problems that might lead to unrest): http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=203015973545354677871.000499b16caba320e204a&ll=9.102097,3.164063&spn=127.764478,225&z=2&source=embed |
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65167 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 20:43 |
aren't Tunisia type events what shape the world? From what I've read, good for them, BenAli sounds like a real loser
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RoyFairbank
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 20:50 |
Your map is very good, thanks. It is a very useful tool. As the map shows, there are a lot of countries which are experiencing at least some unrest. The map also notes that places where no unrest is seen still have inflationary triggers, including the United States and Europe. There are still some people alive here in the USA from the massive unrest of the 1930s, which forced the government to adopt much of the long-term aspects of the New Deal policy. In Europe, however, there is a large degree of unrest at this moment. It remains to be seen whether this will happen in the USA or deepen at all in Europe. The role of Tunisia and related events in the Third World in adding to this atmosphere remains to be seen. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 20:56 |
Nah, my country is one of the rocks of political and social stability.
It is intriguing since economic woes tend be a big key for unrest. The US is currently in an interesting political state as well, BUT...looking at history: I am 99.9% positive the answer is no. |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 21:34 |
It could happen. Hyperinflation tends to cause people to react like that.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 21:38 |
Naturally, but I just don't see it. Great Depression, the early 90's recession with Perot as a viable candidate. (Very different I know.....) US has always just muddled through crises. In fact radicalism kinda died during the depression! Although the extreme anti-guvment sentiment floating around makes things interesting. Edited by JJLehto - January 27 2011 at 21:39 |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: January 27 2011 at 21:40 |
I only said could, but a complete loss of faith in the currency would be worse than we saw in the depression.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 21:48 |
Yes sir
Also I'm totally not planning my own revolution |
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 21:51 |
Yeah
Do the evolution |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 22:02 |
Alex wanna stage the global revolution?
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 22:13 |
Nah thanks, I've been in a "revolutionized" country once. I'm an extremist centrist, actually.
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 22:15 |
extreme centrist!
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 22:15 |
Yeah, I'd kill for stability and good understanding
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65167 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 22:54 |
ah yes, the Fascist Moderate ..brilliant
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RoyFairbank
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 23:14 |
Lol. I think also that the sort of attitude which is instilled on us in the west (and has been for a long time)- for instance that the Soviet Union was socialism and that it represented the failure of all alternatives to capitalism - will necessarily be complicated by the 1) the non-existence of the boogie man for twenty plus years now already 2) the death of people who lived in good economic times under capitalism vis-a-vis the aforementioned boogie man. In other words people of the future will have a hard time being persuaded by all those old badly written cold war books from the 20th century, especially when it comes to the part where capitalism is supposed to be always on the up and up. People don't listen to books, they listen to experiences, so they will make up their own rules when it comes to what social system they want (look at Tunisia and Egypt, with no program or leadership! I would be very interested to see if the economic position of the US also impacts our traditional aloofness....... its hard to picture, that's for sure. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: January 27 2011 at 23:38 |
Extremely hard. But hey, time will tell right? I really don't want to start any political debates (don't we have enough threads for that) but if anything was to result in America, it's probably going to be along the lines of what we are currently seeing on the news. Unfortunately IMO. If there was unrest in the US I would like to see it result in a social democratic type system...but talk about hard to picture! Edited by JJLehto - January 27 2011 at 23:39 |
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The T
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Posted: January 28 2011 at 00:23 |
My country of origin, Ecuador, is quite adept at doing this. We had once 10 presidents in 10 years, just before the current socialist one brought stability with his near unlimited power. I was there when three presidents were ousted through popular revolt, always with the support, or lack of resistance, of the armed forces.
In my adoptive country, the US, I don't see this happening. It's just too big a country. If such an extreme crisis arised when political chaos would ensue, I guess the country would fragment and disappear as a union. |
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someone_else
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Posted: January 28 2011 at 02:25 |
I go for option #2: it seems too unlikely to me that such a thing will happen here in the next 10 years.
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Passionist
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 14 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 1119 |
Posted: January 28 2011 at 02:57 |
I'd say nr. 2 with a 100%. Last time we had a demonstradtion here in Finland there was 50 people tops against something as important as fat free milk or something of the kind. People seem extremely consistent and leave the complaining ti the media. We had our post WW2 civil war, but that's way back.
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