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    Posted: October 16 2009 at 05:14
I had my rap/prog link-up thread before but this is intended to be just a rap thread, hopefully an ongoing discussion/opinions thing that might draw some rap listeners out of the shadows because I know prog fans aren't "supposed" to listen to rap ;)

Was just listening to 2000 Fold, the Styles Of Beyond record from 1999, really good stuff. It's one those albums that is excellent without actively being excellent, if you know what I mean. There's little in the way of stuff that's astonishing/jaw-dropping, it's just super consistent and accomplished, just good lyrics and strong beats all the way through, solid, meat and potatoes hip-hop that is intelligent without trying to be and gets you head nodding without selling out. Shame about that Fort Minor thing they did later but ah well.
 
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Eminem (earlier stuff)
Dr Dre
Public Enemy
NWA
Beastie Boys (old school stuff)
Immortal Technique
Run DMC
1200 Techniques
Hilltop Hoods


That's probably my list of favorites off the top of my head.
I'm not really a prog fan per se, so hip hop isn't out of bounds for me.



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The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Disposable_Heroes_of_Hiphoprisy
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The prog of rap (and my favorite album from the genre):

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https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays
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Public Enemy
Eric B. & Rakim
3rd Bass
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Madvillain (see avatar)
Raekwon (and Wu Tang in general)\
Eminem (early stuff)
Kanye West
dr. dre
Atmosphere
dalek (prog?)
dead Prez
J dilla (not exactly rap but. . .)
GZA
Jay Z
deltron 3030
Aesop Rock
Jedi Mind Tricks
Tribe Called Quest
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Beastie Boys
Biggie Smalls
Tupac (some)
What im listening to
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Chamillionaire, Dalek, and J Dilla. That's a good start.
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If there's one genre I just can't listen to, it's rap. Sorry broDisapprove

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I agree with u on that one rap his hard to listen to. Would u count Usher as Rap thoughConfused
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Go to Watts and tell people that your favorite rapper is Usher. Say goodbye to your family first.
 
I think some of you would like The Greatest Pacman Victory In History by Aesop Rock. It's about his experience with LSD and on the second verse, every three words begin with L S & D. Prog fans should be right at home with this theme.
 
Dean: I have never actually listened to The Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy and that's something of a criminal oversight. You've reminded me to do something about that.
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OutKast deserves some credit. Stankonia and Speakerboxxx/The Love Below are two of the best rap albums I've ever heard.
 
My favorites also include:
Madvillain
Common
Kanye West
Aesop Rock
Beastie Boys
A Tribe Called Quest
 
Then we also have to look at the greats of instrumental hip-hop:
DJ Shadow
Prefuse 73
J Dilla
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Anyone check out the new album from Soulillaquists Of Sound, No More Heroes? I quite liked it. Commercial and fun but no sell-out, no degrading content.

Other good recent releases that I don't think are getting much attention are Stereotype by Blitz The Ambassador and Radio Do Canibal by BK One.
 
I hear a lot of people talking about The Salvation by Skyzoo but I haven't bothered to listen, looks like the same ol', same ol' to me. But I could be wrong- anyone heard it?
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Not sure if this counts as 'rap/hip-hop' but I love this critter to bits. I think they're from Hungary and one of the great things about this album is how they blend in eastern european folk music and Bartok elements to the beats without it sounding remotely contrived. Well worth checking out.
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Public Enemy
Eric B & Rakim
De La Soul
EPMD
NWA
Tres Deliquentas
Ice T
Digital Underground
Ludicrus

In the late 80s I listened to hip-hop non-stop, love James Brown based loops, music doesn't get any better than that.

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Unfortunately, Rap/Hip-Hop is one of the two genres (that I've heard of) which I haven't yet been able to enjoy listening to.  The other is Country.
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Used to love rap/hip-hop, never listen to it anymore these days though. I do, however, enjoy Brotha Lynch and Bone Thugs N' Harmony though. I just never actively listen to it.
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Unfortunately, Rap/Hip-Hop is one of the two genres (that I've heard of) which I haven't yet been able to enjoy listening to.  The other is Country.

I just can't get passed the fact that I don't like any of the music I hear from rap/hip-hop. I know that I have only heard the commercial side, but musically it doesn't interest me.
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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2009 at 01:05
Oh for christ sake to the people coming in here telling us hip hip sucks/you don't like it,, this is a hip hop appreciation thread, not a "I NEED TO COME INTO THIS THREAD TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE  I DO NOT LIKE HIP HOP" thread.
I think Marillion is a sh*tty band, but I don't go into the Marillion appreciation threads and bash the band, geezus.
We like hip hop, you don't but we don't need to hear about it.
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Sad but true, a lot of people on this site still don't know what an appreciation thread is all about.

I can not think of one time I've visited an appreciation thread for a band I didn't like and posted that I didn't like said band or genre, that really wouldn't make any sense.
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Yeah I know, I wasn't going to respond and cement the bad vibes but now the subject's been broached anyway it does tick me off that people feel compelled to come in here and go "Hey, this sucks." Go start a rap depreciation thread. I'm used to rap being dumped on by rock fans who generally haven't listened to it anyway though so no biggie.
BTW: I had this conceited idea that I knew more about hip-hop than most people here but there's already things being thrown up I don't know (Tres Deliquentas, 1200 Techniques) which is great, fresh leads :) Keep it coming.
 
Did anyone else get More Heart Than Brains by Bike For Three? Buck 65 is not a great MC but Greetings From Tuskan's production and the whole sort of sad, heart-broken, twilight atmosphere of the album makes for something strangely beautiful and compelling, really stuck with me since I got it.
Anyone heard the new People Under The Stairs?
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