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J-Man
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Topic: Most important band in building prog Posted: November 24 2008 at 08:04 |
I'd vote for the Beatles in any poll like this, but The Who comes in close second.
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 08:23 |
The Beatles were very influential and therefore they may be regarded as founders of proto-prog, but Procol Harum and the Nice were the first bands to develop the music which was to be called 'prog' in the next years (the symphonic branch), so I vote for Procol Harum.
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 10:34 |
I will always consider The Beatles as british invasion and that's about it, but when it comes to prog, Procol Harum pull the trigger.
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 10:50 |
From this list The Beatles - but I think it is more a matter for a general discussion than a poll with a limited number of choices
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yet you still have time!
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 11:31 |
I went with Procol Harum although The Doors were keyboard driven for the most part.
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 11:35 |
Led Zeppelin since their first album , and , without Keyboard , has more than satisfying progressive materials than all the other bands listed above /////
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 12:58 |
Deep Purple
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 14:03 |
Out of this list it's not really close. If you add Zappa and then you have a case.
In my honest opinion the Beatles already were recording Progressive Rock with songs like "Strawberry Fields Forever", "A Day in the Life" and "Within You Without You" all recorded before Procol Harum. The Beatles were to varied to be classed as one genre. Some that are Proto-Prog IMO the early Art-Rock of "Tomorrow Never Knows" , "Eleanor Rigby" and "Love You To" off Revolver.
Strawberry Fields Forever" is at least Proto-Prog. With its use of mellotron, Indian scales and two separate versions of one song into one. Strawberry Fields Forever" uses diminished chords that are common with jazz music. It changes time signatures often 4/4, 6/8, 3/4, 2/4. Hardly simple stuff. It helped pioneer Progressive Rock.
"Happiness Is A Warm Gun" for example include a Balkan rhythm and a polyrhythm in different sections. Were they influenced by jazz?
"A Day in the Life", "I am the Walrus", "Within You, Without You", Strawberry Fields"... not really blues tunes, They were able to draw from diverse sources, like Indian classical music "Within You" uses a raga-like form that contains both major and minor thirds in different octaves, kind of a combination of mixolydian and Dorian modalities. Lennon used forms similar to Tibetan chants.
They were a big influence on King Crimson, Yes, early Pink Floyd and had some influence on Procol Harum. Like it or not they were the most popular band in the world and that matters a lot.
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 14:11 |
Lots of these bands had their big impact on Prog, but for me it's between The Beatles(Revolver, Sgt.Pepper's, Magical Mystery Tour and Abbey Road) and The Who(A Quick One, Tommy & Sell Out)
By no means these are my faves. Being objective, I'll have to go with The Beatles.
..Of course a special mention to all the others: The Doors' psych 'epics', Deep Purple's mix on classical and hard rock music(Concerto), etc..
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 17:39 |
Also I would think the Moody Blues were a big influence. Not so much the Moody Blues, but I believe Mike Pinder is who showed the mellotron to the Beatles. And of course Days of Future Passed.
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Posted: November 25 2008 at 03:14 |
I would have thought Deep Purple to be the obvious answer here.
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Posted: November 25 2008 at 04:34 |
The Mothers of Invention. Their Freak Out is what inspired the Beatles to go experimental.
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Posted: November 25 2008 at 04:51 |
Along with The Beatles, one of these three:
The Mothers of Invention Pink Floyd Moody Blues
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
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Posted: November 28 2008 at 11:46 |
And what about the Left Banke?
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J-Man
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Posted: November 28 2008 at 12:24 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
The Mothers of Invention. Their Freak Out is what inspired the Beatles to go experimental.
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True, but the reason why prog became famous is The Beatles. Other people discovered America before Columbis, but he was the one who started a revolution and made other Europeans move to America and gets credit for it. The Mothers of Invention started prog before, but since The Beatles had fame, they created a revolution and started making prog famous.
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Posted: November 28 2008 at 13:37 |
Lav wrote:
I will always consider The Beatles as british invasion and that's about it, but when it comes to prog, Procol Harum pull the trigger.
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The Beatles WERE a British Invasion group. But listen to Abbey Road and Sgt. Pepper, and then you'll say that they were a british invasion group, who eventually made prog./////
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Posted: November 28 2008 at 14:24 |
Jimi Hendrix. The Experience thereof.
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Posted: December 02 2008 at 13:56 |
for sheer size and talent
it's gotta be the Beatles
For me - cause it's all personal
it's Pink Floyd Animals era because I was 5 when I heard it and loved it
I remember my uncle going away west on his bike to see Floyd in Cleveland that year
we weren't that far away in southern Western NY
ya gotta add Aqualung to that because he was playing that all the time then too ![Smile Smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Posted: December 02 2008 at 18:17 |
It's a tie between the Beatles and the Mothers.
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Posted: December 02 2008 at 19:51 |
none on the list for building prog, I'd say the Nice --> ELP, early Yes & Genesis, Egg, Soft Machine, a few others
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