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    Posted: June 27 2007 at 09:35
Been corresponding with Mark of Thieves Kitchen and the subject of categories came up with the following response wrt to PA tagging Thieves Kitchen's music 'neo-prog :
 
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I am always pretty bewildered on the few occasions we get labelled neo prog - OK, I used to play drums for a reasonably well-known neo prog band called Grey Lady Down in the 90's, but that's about the only connection - I'd challenge anyone to hear any significant neo influences in our music aside from maybe just the slightest nod on our debut album, 'Head'... Certainly I think you'll find our style much closer to the likes of Bruford, UK or National Health - with perhaps a touch of Zappa thrown in.
 
As for Holdsworth-like guitar - hey, Phil even LOOKS like him....
 
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That would indicate the band see/hear themselves as predominantly  'jazz rock fusion', which I believe is a good reason for a correction.


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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2007 at 09:36
what better expert than the group themselves hahahhaha
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2007 at 09:46

I just started listening to them lately and wondered why they were in Neo.


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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2007 at 11:07
If about wrong genres, would mr. Heath know anything about Stromboli (it's the third topic I signal this)? I listened to it this morning and can't figure out what's jazz-rock about it (rather than mainstream prog, with an actual difficult edge in deciding a genre for it: too simple and 80s for Art Rock, too conventional for neo, too prog for Related, too nothing for anything else...)
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Points: 12813 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2007 at 13:15
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

If about wrong genres, would mr. Heath know anything about Stromboli (it's the third topic I signal this)? I listened to it this morning and can't figure out what's jazz-rock about it (rather than mainstream prog, with an actual difficult edge in deciding a genre for it: too simple and 80s for Art Rock, too conventional for neo, too prog for Related, too nothing for anything else...)
 
In part because of PA's policy of tagging every band in sight with a prog-related label, I now discover a lot of bands have had 'jazz-rock fusion' slapped on them (wanted or not). When a year a go I thought knew most of the jazz rock bands*, now those labelled such here greatly exceed both my exposure to their music - in some instances even to their names. As such Stromboli is one of the latter. More than prepared to listen - reference to Thieves Kitchen at the Fusenet jazz rock discussion group, awoke me to the band and my contacting them - so point me in the right direction to allow me to add my halfpenny's worth of opinion.
 
*The definitive book Jazz Rock : A History (by Stuart Nicholson) has a discography written with Jazzwise editor Jon Newey ,with a very large number of albums listed  - I would claimed to heard many of those. Without ever have been counted, I guess I have at least 500 jazz rock albums on vinyl (on approx a metrer of shelving) or CD (on about  6 metres of shelving).
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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2007 at 13:19
Hmm. Well, I listened to a good number of tracks on their homepage a good 6 months or so ago while considering to buy an album or two, and they did sound rather jazzy, but there was a distinct presence of Neo-Progressive tendencies in the music.
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2007 at 14:54
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

If about wrong genres, would mr. Heath know anything about Stromboli (it's the third topic I signal this)? I listened to it this morning and can't figure out what's jazz-rock about it (rather than mainstream prog, with an actual difficult edge in deciding a genre for it: too simple and 80s for Art Rock, too conventional for neo, too prog for Related, too nothing for anything else...)
 
In part because of PA's policy of tagging every band in sight with a prog-related label, I now discover a lot of bands have had 'jazz-rock fusion' slapped on them (wanted or not). When a year a go I thought knew most of the jazz rock bands*, now those labelled such here greatly exceed both my exposure to their music - in some instances even to their names. As such Stromboli is one of the latter. More than prepared to listen - reference to Thieves Kitchen at the Fusenet jazz rock discussion group, awoke me to the band and my contacting them - so point me in the right direction to allow me to add my halfpenny's worth of opinion.
 
*The definitive book Jazz Rock : A History (by Stuart Nicholson) has a discography written with Jazzwise editor Jon Newey ,with a very large number of albums listed  - I would claimed to heard many of those. Without ever have been counted, I guess I have at least 500 jazz rock albums on vinyl (on approx a metrer of shelving) or CD (on about  6 metres of shelving).


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