Are we running out of Ideas

I can't help feeling I've seen a thread like this before... 

I also agree.  Though I have only been an official member for a month, I have been coming to this site since last fall for all the indepth reviews of albums and groups that I didn't even know existed just six months ago.  I also occasionally would check out some of the threads just to see what everyone was discussing, and sometimes the threads were rather juvenile, other times worthwhile.  I mean for every "top 10" thread or "this band/album is overrated" thread, there have been intelligent indepth discussions about what may have inspired such and such band to record such and such album.  Discussions that I find to be informative and often times, enlightening.  But, those threads don't seem to appear that often.   

MegaMoog wrote: I have been a member just shy of one years and I have not found a good thread in a while.  It would appear that we have run out of things to talk about.  New member bring up old debates and old member are saying here we go again.  Most of these threads look as if they were written by a liittle kid " I hate so and so" or " so and so is the best".  Lets dig deep and go below the surface, or just stop talking about it.  Before you post something read the old threads to make sure it has not been done before

   
To be honest, and to defend myself, I think I have tried to create debates about style, context, validation of music as form of art by updating resources and mirror society in it's actual state. But those threads dissapear beneath those "Most overrated..., King Crimson Vs. George Bush (go Crimson!), bestest best band of bands..." etc. I think entusiams is blinding people, and I think this forum is being mostly used to say "My band is the best and I like it so much", or "Dreamtheater is horrible".

I think Peter Rideout made a good point more than once on these forums. If you don`t like the discussion or topic don`t get involved in it It`s that simple ladies and gentlemen.

Vompatti wrote: I can't help feeling I've seen a thread like this before...

Sorry to say I agree with just about everything you lot have said here.

Though I have only been a member for a few weeks, I am already finding the forums becoming quite tedious - so much of the space is devoted to juvenile drivel. Most posters simply seem incapable of forming a coherent argument, and quite often when they try, someone quickly loses their temper and it degenerates into a slanging match. Most do not seem to acknowledge or tolerate anyone else's opinion. Which all tends to bring it down to very simplistic forms.

There are exceptions of course, and I still trawl through looking for something interesting. Often I see a comment and want to reply, but then stop myself because it just isn't worth the effort - they won't listen to me, and most likely will get angry that I have dared to challenge their right to be right. And, of course, most of them will simply state their preferences, without any form of explanation.

There is also a temptation to post something like "oh no, not another silly thread/poll/whatever ...." which I notice some people will do. I try to resist doing this because, after all, no-one forced me to enter the thread in the first place. Sure, I can start my own threads, like someone said already, but often it will get lost in the mire, or it will get highjacked by people going off at a tangent and not actually discussing the topic.

There are still some good discussions, and perhaps some other little topic which tickles the fancy, but they are few and far between. Perhaps one of the problems is that Prog encompasses such a wide variation of styles that it is unlikely that everything will appeal to me - eg I have no interest at all in so-called Prog Metal - so discussions on those topics are beyond my ken.

I joined the site because there seemed to be a lot of people conversing about the music that I like. Sadly there seems to be a lot of words written, but not a great deal of conversation, which I find very disappointing.

Regards


Edited by Joolz - May 03 2006 at 02:57

I have no idea....

MikeEnRegalia wrote: After more than one year of membership I admit that I've finally given up on using the forum as a platform to inspire people to listen to new bands. It's just pointless ... people are stubborn and put their own beliefs above everything else. I'm not excluding myself, although the extent of this "arrogance" surely varies from person to person.

I understand you and you are quite right. However, I insisted to continue with my thread (I recommend) since I believe there is a solid crowd here that yearns for new stuff (not necessarily modern new but new for them). I have found several friends like this through that thread (Geck0, Jimbo, Eugene, Micky, Ivan Melgar, Rorro, Atkingani, Lesovation, Erik, Glass House, DallasBryan, Andrea Cortese, Andrew, and others as well - sorry to anyone I ommited). I am glad I insisted cause now I can share with them new stuff I find and they do the same with me.
So for those people, it is worth "bothering" for.

avestin wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: After more than one year of membership I admit that I've finally given up on using the forum as a platform to inspire people to listen to new bands. It's just pointless ... people are stubborn and put their own beliefs above everything else. I'm not excluding myself, although the extent of this "arrogance" surely varies from person to person. I understand you and you are quite right. However, I insisted to continue with my thread (I recommend) since I believe there is a solid crowd here that yearns for new stuff (not necessarily modern new but new for them). I have found several friends like this through that thread (Geck0, Jimbo, Eugene, Micky, Ivan Melgar, Rorro, Atkingani, Lesovation, Erik, Glass House, DallasBryan, Andrea Cortese, Andrew, and others as well - sorry to anyone I ommited). I am glad I insisted cause now I can share with them new stuff I find and they do the same with me. So for those people, it is worth "bothering" for.