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greenback 
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Posted: September 17 2004 at 23:31 |
The criterias are: the loudness, the presence, the cleanness, the purity, the echo, the atmosphere produced and the sustain of each note.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITHOUT THE EFFECT THIS GUITAR SOLO DOES ON YOU!
My choice is OBVIOUSLY Marillion - Jigsaw!
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threefates
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Posted: September 17 2004 at 23:40 |
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This was a very hard decision for me... to chose between David on "Yet Another Movie" or David "Raise My Rent". I went with Raise my Rent, cause as much as "On the Turning Away" is my favorite song from AMLOR... I think the best guitar sound... and my favorite guitar moment from that album is "Sorrow".
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Posted: September 18 2004 at 00:02 |
What happened to: Rush - your fave solo on Moving Pictures or Signals
"Limelight" and/or "Analog Kid," fer sure! Alex's tone on "Limelight" is fairly unbeatable, as far as a killer hard rock g-tone goes.
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greenback
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Posted: September 18 2004 at 00:28 |
the Analog kid solo sound is a bit gross, but the solo itself is very melodic, elaborated and excellent!
I prefer the Digital man solo; again, the sound is not extreme, but it sounds better, probably because Lifeson sustains more.
Limelight: Despite Lifeson's enormous sustain effort, I think this solo lacks a bit depth (not enough pedal effects?). I really like it anyway.
Moving and signals are better overall albums than grace & power, but these 2 records have superior solos IMO. Actually, it is very hard to find better guit solos albums than power; maybe fugazi.
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Posted: September 18 2004 at 00:54 |
"Your Possible Pasts" since "The Final Cut" is my fave Pink Floyd album, but there's more to this Gilmour experience all over "WYWH", definitely...
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Posted: September 18 2004 at 04:58 |
Where's Steve Howe in there?
Wurm
Yours Is No Disgrace
And You And I
South Side Of The Sky
Soon
Turn Of The Century
And as much as I like Alex Lifeson/Rush, 'Power Windows' seems like an odd choice in this type of poll.
Another argument,sorry!
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Posted: September 18 2004 at 07:46 |
I am voting for Mr Hackett - because Steve Howe! is missing. (I'm with RichardH on this one)
Also Andy Revell (Guitar Solo in Sequences (Live @ the Target)).
Niall Mathewson of Pallas requires a mention as well!
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greenback
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Posted: September 18 2004 at 22:06 |
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There are no Steve Howe because I find his sound ordinary.
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greenback
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Posted: September 18 2004 at 22:08 |
 Swinton MCR wrote:
Niall Mathewson of Pallas requires a mention as well!
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his guitar is very melodic, but his sound is bland
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Posted: September 18 2004 at 23:16 |
greenback wrote:
Swinton MCR wrote:
Niall Mathewson of Pallas requires a mention as well!
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his guitar is very melodic, but his sound is bland
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Indeed!
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gdub411
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 00:00 |
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How about the beautiful guitar work of Gilmour's at the end of IS There Anybody Out There?
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 00:27 |
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I am casting my vote for Mr. Hackett since Mr. Fripp (Starless) and Bill Nelson (Crying to the Sky) & (Adventures in a Yorkshire Landscape, live version) are missing. Although there are many wonderful solos listed (and not), these come to mind to me first. Also, check out Hackett's solos on Gordian Knot.
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shake your head as the world just nods away...
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 05:46 |
greenback wrote:
The criterias are: the loudness, the presence, the cleanness, the purity, the echo, the atmosphere produced and the sustain of each note.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITHOUT THE EFFECT THIS GUITAR SOLO DOES ON YOU!
My choice is OBVIOUSLY Marillion - Jigsaw!
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And the quality of playing?
My vote to FRANK ZAPPA---INCA ROADS.(album One size fits all)
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 15:31 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
Also Andy Revell (Guitar Solo in Sequences (Live @ the Target)).
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Andy gets an awesome sound there matching all the criteria! Good spot 
My all time guitar sound goes to Steve Rothery on "Forgotten Sons" - the hairs on my neck just stand up from start to finish, and the emotions run so deep you feel like you're drowning in them. Loudness? Well, it's not so much the loudness as the quality dynamic that makes the guitar sing and resonate above everything. Purity? Check! Echo? There's EXACTLY the correct amount of delay to start the shivers running up and down the spine. Atmosphere? 11/10. Sustain? Perfect!
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Where is Andy Latimer?
Almost everything he does on Mirage fits the bill here.
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Steve Hillage's greatest moment has to be "Castle in the Clouds" on "Angel's Egg" - possibly the most sublime guitar solo in the history of the instrument (and one of the shortest!).
For Dave Gilmour, I choose "Comfortably Numb" - but I'll agree with anyone who argues that another Gilmour solo is as good.
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On the available choices, I choose Steve Rothery in Jigsaw, Incubus or She Chameleon (they're all great!) 
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 15:51 |
So...the quality of the guitar tone regardless of the musical content?
I'll pass.
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 15:55 |
Is that like the speed of the guitar solo regardless of the musicality>
I'll pass also.
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greenback
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 16:07 |
Andy Latime???????????????? Are you serious??
Andy has the most typical conventional guitar sound in the prog scene! He has the extremely conventional sound of Darryl Stuermer (Genesis Live performance). Thanks God, his guitar solos are totally melodic, moving and well played!! But he does not sound extreme! OK, he tries a much more on Stationary traveller, but he is not in the top.
I think many people are confused with guitar properties:
speed guitar: extreme speed, like on Rush's Farewell to kings solo! Does it SOUND? Not really, because Lifeson does not take the time to work each note!
loudness: in other words, decibels involved: the power of the mid & high frequencies. Rush's power windows solos! It contribute to SOUND.
heavyness: the power of the low frequencies (Rush's here again wins hands down!) It contributes to SOUND.
echo: adds color and depth : Steve Hillage's Palm trees It contributes to SOUND.
sustain: the guitarist holds the note in order to work it, to let all the sound effects take their peak. Marillion's Jigsaw solo has obvious sustained notes. It contributes to SOUND.
Usually, when all the above characteristics are present, the solo is well played!
According to many guitarists connoisseurs, one of the best guitar solos for the SOUND are on the Headpins albums "Turn it loud" and "Line of Fire". After that, you will find any guitar sound bland, believe me!
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 16:14 |
Depends on what you mean by extreme.
You gave as criteria; "...the loudness, the presence, the cleanness, the purity, the echo, the atmosphere produced and the sustain of each note." Extreme wasn't among them!
I think Andy L fits those descriptions very well - and since you mentioned "Stationary Traveller", there's another album on which he puts in some great moments of loudness, presence, cleanness, purity, echo, atmosphere and the sustain of each note...
 
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greenback
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 16:45 |
Well, I have to admit that I have a huge background in hard rock and metal, probably more than prog itself!! I can distinguish between an excellent guitar sound and an ordinary one: it has nothing to do with speed and the pleasant feelings it gives you. There are no secrets: listen, listen and listen again!! The more you listen and like things, the more you will be able to develop a reliable criticism.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: September 19 2004 at 16:51 |
Flamin' hell. I reckon that everyone on this forum knows a good guitar solo when they hear one! That's why we love prog because its all about the playing.
Have you heard the saying "You're trying to teach your grandmother how to suck eggs"?
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