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    Posted: June 10 2024 at 06:34
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Movie Experiences and Oddities

Going to the movies these days, you or I are not likely to have the "experience" that we did many years ago ... for example, no stereo big enough in your house, will ever come close to the experience that was at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, and neither will it come close to the original way "Star Wars" was shown, which included speakers under many seats through the audience so the sound would go through the whole theater ... and loud! And towards the end, with all that flying, let me tell you ... that's an experience and then some!

But, for me, there were a few far out things. Some of it was the film itself, but the ones that really stood out often were special showings that were not repeated, thus making the experience for that particular film, different and sometimes not as great, or otherwise, the regular version that you get to see on Blue Ray, or a DVD these days.

In many ways, a lot of film these days, is not half as good, since there are not many film makers stretching the boundaries, although, it might be easier to say that those folks are still at it, but the boundaries are in areas that we have not noticed yet ... perhaps the future will show more ... but it is said that the Covid thing a few years ago, is what hurt going to the movie theaters, although I think that a lot of companies that owned the theaters, simply were not making enough money to go spend it on something extraordinary that was going to bring only a nickel more ... and in the past few years ... nothing, not to mention, that I'm not sure that the majority of film releases simply do not warrant the great, and far out experience that we might have caught at one time.

That said ... here are a few moments that I always remember.

- Upset feeling for a day. "Don't Look Now" ... the way that film moves is really tough and the contrasts are so ... out there ... that when it ends like it does, you leave the theater ... wow ... and the film had some incredible moments. You can't help feeling sad!

- Dizzy experience. Went to Disneyland, one of my least favorite places, and got to see the 180 degree thing, or was it 360 degrees? Flying around Manhattan making it look like you were one of the planes chasing King Kong ... it was neat, but different and the experience is not for everyone, but it is far out. It's more show than it is a go ... forgetable!

- Widen you view of ... that's a film? The Cinerama Dome was about a very wide screen done with 3 projectors ... that showed a single screen in a very wide style, that was cool, but made you crazy ... I remember one tease sequence, and there was a girl in a bikini on the far right ... and guess what ... one in the far left ... and it took your attention ... something that a film is not designed to do, although some directors take advantage of that (Godard for sure!) ... but breaking out the "experience" is tough ... you and I go outside and we look around and see a very wide view and show, but never think of it as a "movie" and all of a sudden the show at the Dome, is more a "show" that it is something that is helpful and you can learn from. But the intentional ability to split your view, was not cool in my book ... you ended up not experiencing the development of the technology at all ... because of the bikinis.

- Dizzy experience ... too. I couldn't help it, but there was a special showing/release of "Lawrence of Arabia" in Hollywood, and it was on a wide screen ... and all that ... and let me tell you that long shot of Omar Shariff arriving from the desert ... is insane ... and you kinda hallucinate just seeing it ... it's bright, and very strong, and probably a 2 to 3 minute experience that even some movie moguls said was a waste of celluloid ... but it is, by very far, one of the most memorable scenes in all film history, and you really have to see it in the big screen, because your 72 inch screen and Blue Ray at home is not enough.

- Crazy and insane. The Portland International Film Festival, on occasion, has a thing or two worth seeing, but not all of it, is really ... something that you want to watch at all ... because it is way out there ... "I Stand Alone" was one ... insane ... film, not to mention experience. The gunshots themselves, not synced with anything except to get you to jump out of your seat, since they are not quite a part of the story at all ... and then the film is strictly one hundred percent inside the guy's mind, and it is all over and non-stop, and before one hour of the film, half the audience had already left ... it was that harsh and difficult to sit through. I suppose, for a "film" it has its points, even if not something that you can sit and enjoy ... but it is totally out of mind and spec ... and definitely not something that you take yor girlfriend, or wife to see on a date ... 

- Overblown crap. Went with my friend and roomate to a "Hollywood Premiere" for which he had tickets ... and the film was "The Abominable Dr. Phibes" with Vincent Price ... and all the stars and everyone else got inside the theater by going through that carpet, and the big names get ovations, and all that and the Pacific Pantages (I think it was ...) was decked out in card board to look like some kind of a huge mansion, or world class this or that ... well, if you didn't smell that perfumes, you would not have had a really good trip ... probably better than the psychedelics of the day! The film was fine ... not a genre that I tend to live in, but the film shown a a larger screen than normal ... made it seem more important ... not really better!

- Is it weird or is it a masterpiece? ... If you ever want to see a film, that is way out there, far out, and really special in its own way, you got to sit through "Performance" and appreciate a visual masterpiece, with incredible music, and outstanding writing and acting ... you get the feeling that there is not a single moment in the film that is not connected and is trying to sidetrack you altogether ... the premise alone is a bit far out, and a lot of folks seem to connect it to some kind of occult this or that, but in the end, a beautifully written and defined film, doesn't need "hints" of anything in order to show how great it is. The hard part? Sitting through the film and stop trying to "figure out" everything, and just let it flow ... and maybe, when you see it a 2nd time, you find that wow ... this is connected to that and that is connected to that over there ... and it doesn't stop. With some amazing work in acting, by Mick Jagger, Anita Pallenberg, James Fox and then ... that visual camera ... is a wow, all the way through ... it still is, by far, one of the best films I have ever seen. 

And NOW, it's your turn!



Edited by moshkito - June 10 2024 at 06:40
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Hi,

"The Double Life of Veronique". 

There was a moment in that film that made me cry ... and it is when she asks the puppeteer why he has duplicate dolls ... "because they are fragile, and they break." ... and guess what we are seeing ... the story in the film is exactly that, and one of the duplicates has passed away ... and the film continues, and refuses to fall back into some kind of horror film ... it has a really soft feel all the way through it, and it makes one feel like this happens all the time, but we don't see the perspective. 

One of the things that made this film special, is its music, by Zbigniew Preisner ... and how it is used, is almost 2nd to none in film making ... it only adds to the beauty and charm of the film.
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Well, one of those memorable experiences was seeing Bela Tarr's Satantango on the big screen - all seven and a half hours of it. And it was mesmerizingly beautiful.

An other film that gets better every time I see it on the big screen is Peter Greenaway's The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover. This includes hearing the wonderful music of Michael Nyman.


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This is kind of a weird one, but nonetheless, very memorable to me. My parents were invited to go see a movie at a drive-in theater in I believe Pennsauken, New Jersey in the summer of 1976. My Mom's brother wanted to see it, so he and his girlfriend were in one car, my parents and me and my brother in the other. This was an R-rated horror flick and I cannot remember what it was called. My parents didn't think it was suitable for me and my brother to watch (even though we peeked from time to time) and were instructed to look out the back window of the car and watch the movie showing in the other drive-in parking lot. There they were broadcasting The Bad News Bears. So my brother and me watched it without sound through the back window, but hearing the sound of the horror flick in front of us. It was a rather surreal experience. We did get the gist of what The Bad News Bears was about, but what a strange way to watch it.

By the way, I saw the original Star Wars at the Lincoln drive-in theater in Trevose, Pennsylvania. Not the best way to watch such a groundbreaking movie, but still a lot of fun if you're a kid.
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My most memorable movie memory comes from watching Encounter in the Third Dimension at the IMAX theater in the year 2000. Beyond mesmerising, I'd say. Watched it about a dozen times there.
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Well, one of those memorable experiences was seeing Bela Tarr's Satantango on the big screen - all seven and a half hours of it. And it was mesmerizingly beautiful.

An other film that gets better every time I see it on the big screen is Peter Greenaway's The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover. This includes hearing the wonderful music of Michael Nyman.

Hi,

This reminds me of a couple more things. 

- El Topo ... didn't see it until much later, and then it was on video, not in the theaters. Many years later I saw that one special on Jodorowsky and he talks about his experiences and his many seminars, and about the films, all of which featured a lot of improvisation, which he had experienced previously. His seminars were about "opening up" the person to learn more about themselves (I think that's what I remember the most) ... but in the end, they were interesting ... to me, there is a lot of the improvisational exercises in theater and film, that can be used for many other details, specially within the arts.

Peter Greenaway ... got to watch just about everything he did on the video, and several of his films are standout for me. I loved several of them. I appreciated TCTTHW&HL a lot, and I really thought that the ending was insane, but right on! "Prospero's Books" is my favorite take on Shakespeare, and if EVER you want to hear how Shakespeare can be done, simply close your eyes and listen to Sir John Gielgud. Very pretty, very alive, and so special. But the one film that really opened up my noodles was "The Pillow Book", that is a film that a lot of folks get confused on ... and I thought that the PiP was a version of what was in the character's mind, and sometimes in the film maker's mind (very different from Godard!!!) ... and it made the whole thing special ... but very confusing for the most part. Still an amazing experience. After that, a couple of years ago I finally got to see "Nightwatching", and while the film is exhausting, the special on the DVD is even more so, but it clarifies a lot of bits in the film really well ... it's like no one knows Rembrandt any better than Peter Greenaway does, or did ... and I think that makes it an intense literary study about the arts and how they work, and specially how someone sees their own work ... most folks will do some kind of story about this or that person, but you rarely get into the meat of the brains that created it all. This film has it and then some.

I'm on the lookout for some of the things mentioned here, as they don't appear to be available widely, but yeah, there are many far out bits and pieces.

- Fellini ... there is only one thing you have to see that "describes" Fellini, and it is the opening of "Intervista" and a scene that caused incredible problems, but in the end, the child won ... the kid had to take a pee, and the kid would not be aware of whatever else was going on around him ... and that "innocence" is really what a lot of Fellini is about ... sometimes crazy and nuts, but after seeing that, you kinda realize you are watching a kid with a camera in his hands, so to speak.
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ROAD WARRIOR Part 68 and counting!

Just saw the "Furiosa" film. Not impressed, and by halfway, I was getting tired of the many special effects and new ways to fall and die in a film. I also felt that the story was lacking and it just seemed to try and make itself important and valuable, and then it became all about the bad guys ... trying to get ahead, and instead finding themselves pretty much destroyed ... and we can all wonder what will happen to the end ... if there ever is one ... I imagine that the day George Miller passes away, the whole film series will finally die, and not find another sequel, or worse ... another prequel.

A lot of folks think there was some great acting in this film, and I'm not sure that this was as important as it has been made out to be, specially for a film, that in the end, you don't care! And I'm not sure that it being a woman, again, getting abused and then getting her revenge ... is a very original concept for me ... it would have been better if it was something more valuable and important for our time, and ways.

I kinda wanted to review this film, but gave up ... I did not find it as important as the first 2 films, and even the 3rd film was more interesting, though it already was losing its luster and attraction.

How did you feel/think about this film?
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EL TOPO (Mexico 1970)

Working on this review ... the film is probably way out there and crazy and I'm not sure that it is meant to have any "meaning" as the images are very surrealistic and crazy and I think that it probably was a bit of an over reaction to Jodorowsky's Theater having been closed down in Mexico City for various reasons, many of which are probably all clear and visible in this film.

It is ... insane ... and trying to spend time to find a "story" is probably the worst thing that anyone can do about this film, because every thread goes too far and away from its continuity to the point of it becoming a sort of cartoon.

One thing is quite visible though. The savagery towards the latter part of the film suggests that Mexico is a very brutal place, that has no law and order, and too much of it is just random, thought it is very clear that a lot of prejudices are very evident in the film. 

A difficult film to sit through, because you and I are used to a "story", and it is really difficult to think that there is one here, although the events in the "city" end up creating a story, one that is not exactly pleasant and is more malicious and animalistic than anything else.

It is, probably, a film better seen by film students that can appreciate the incredible images and its turns ... without spending their time trying to understand or figure out what it is all about ... it could be about many things, but also ... just a surrealistic view of the whole thing to the point of just crazy and insane.
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