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Wakeman's Birotron 
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 Topic: Trace vs Refugee
Posted: February 10 2015 at 08:45 |
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Two keyboard-centric, symphonic prog power trios. Which one do you prefer?
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sublime220
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 09:16 |
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I despise Trace for some reason. Refugee it is.
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Rednight
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 09:22 |
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^Well figure that out, then. It's Trace as Refugee bores me. Wish the former had put out more albums.
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jacksiedanny
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 09:27 |
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Not really fair since there are 3 Trace releases - good luck finding orig vinyl of "The White Ladies" - and only one Refugee.
Still, Refugee is a classic.
Edited by jacksiedanny - February 10 2015 at 09:29
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TeleStrat
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 10:18 |
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I went with Trace.
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sublime220
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 11:49 |
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^Well figure that out, then. It's Trace as Refugee bores me. Wish the former had put out more albums. |
Should have phrased it better. I don't despise them but I had been constantly suggested and tbh, they're not my slice of pie. Not to say they're bad, but the amount of times that people have recommended them to me and the amount of times I've given them a chance, Refugee wins, hands down.
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Rednight
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 11:54 |
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^With your enthusiasm for Refugee, I'll have to give their lone disc another listen. And there's another band that needed more albums (Would they have survived the sophomore jinx?).
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verslibre
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 12:09 |
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I love both bands. Can't vote for one against the other.
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richardh
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 14:53 |
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I love that Refugee album. I did have a compilation by Trace somewhere (or maybe it was a record company sampler) but it didn't do much for me so I didn't go any further. However The Keyboards Triangle album (Ars Nova and Gerard) has one of their tracks 'Birds Medley' and that sounds good. Maybe I need to give them a proper try at some point.
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Hercules
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 15:29 |
I really like the Refugee album, but I've been a huge fan of Trace since the early 70s, so they get my vote.
Rick van der Linden was a genius.
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A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.
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verslibre
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 16:31 |
richardh wrote:
I love that Refugee album. I did have a compilation by Trace somewhere (or maybe it was a record company sampler) but it didn't do much for me so I didn't go any further. However The Keyboards Triangle album (Ars Nova and Gerard) has one of their tracks 'Birds Medley' and that sounds good. Maybe I need to give them a proper try at some point. |
Birds was my intro to the band (on vinyl 25 years ago!) and it's superb. Get that first. Then backtrack and get the first one, called simply Trace. Don't bother with the third album, White Ladies.
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jacksiedanny
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 16:43 |
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The Keyboards Triangle cd is a MUST HAVE.
I'm thinking its likely a difficult cd to find nowadays.
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jacksiedanny
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 16:45 |
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Really?
You didn't like "White Ladies"????
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Heard any of the van der Linden solo lps?
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verslibre
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 16:48 |
jacksiedanny wrote:
The Keyboards Triangle cd is a MUST HAVE.
I'm thinking its likely a difficult cd to find nowadays.
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Yes, both KT and KT II are excellent. No, White Ladies didn't make much of an impression. I have heard some of Rick's solo (non-Ekseption) work, it's quite good. He was a virtuoso.
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presdoug
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Posted: February 10 2015 at 17:07 |
verslibre wrote:
I love both bands. Can't vote for one against the other. |
This
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richardh
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Posted: February 11 2015 at 01:56 |
verslibre wrote:
richardh wrote:
I love that Refugee album. I did have a compilation by Trace somewhere (or maybe it was a record company sampler) but it didn't do much for me so I didn't go any further. However The Keyboards Triangle album (Ars Nova and Gerard) has one of their tracks 'Birds Medley' and that sounds good. Maybe I need to give them a proper try at some point. |
Birds was my intro to the band (on vinyl 25 years ago!) and it's superb. Get that first. Then backtrack and get the first one, called simply Trace. Don't bother with the third album, White Ladies. |
ta ... now off to Amazon 
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richardh
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Posted: February 11 2015 at 01:58 |
verslibre wrote:
jacksiedanny wrote:
The Keyboards Triangle cd is a MUST HAVE.
I'm thinking its likely a difficult cd to find nowadays.
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Yes, both KT and KT II are excellent. No, White Ladies didn't make much of an impression. I have heard some of Rick's solo (non-Ekseption) work, it's quite good. He was a virtuoso. |
KTII suffers a little from dodgy vocal syndrome but good to hear a version of Danger Money. I burnt both albums onto one disk . Nice!
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dr wu23
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Posted: February 11 2015 at 11:38 |
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Hmm....went with Refugee....never really got into Trace.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
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proggman
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Posted: February 15 2015 at 18:53 |
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Trace.
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When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.
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Trace vs Refugee