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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 14:21
Yeah, no.

Engineers don't buy the real estate. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 14:29
What a stupid answer and hardly an excuse, a place where 4 tectonic plates come together with more active volcanoes than any other place on earth, no companies the engineers work for buy real estate, your reasoning is skewed as usual
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 14:50
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Well, even if there is no meltdown, this will certainly cause a lot more sentiment against nuclear plants around the world.


Which is too bad.  People want us to lessen our dependence on fossil fuels, and yet irrationally fear a much cleaner, more sustainable alternative that carries far fewer risks than critics are willing to admit.
Sure looks risky about now


I know, it seemed like maybe maybe there was some hope for nuclear power becoming acceptable (or at least explored) and now that is probably dashed. It really is a shame, its cleaner, and safer, than people seem to realize, especially if some more research was put into it. I've been a fan of nuclear power for a few years now.

As for looking risky...it's not THE answer for the world Tim but it is a good one.
Also we could you know, not build nuclear plants in earthquake sensitive areas...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 14:55
We could also take these big man made natural disasters as a wake up call to explore safer, cleaner sources of energy, of course we will need to wean ourselves off the ones we have now, it can be done. I am not saying to totally shut down reactors and quit driving cars etcetera, what I am saying is now is the timeto become less dependent on risky energy sources and definitely phase out the ones located on fault lines with a history of activity.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 14:57
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

We could also take these big man made natural disasters as a wake up call


Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

What a stupid answer and hardly an excuse, a place where 4 tectonic plates come together with more active volcanoes than any other place on earth


I'm impressed that we cause the shifting of tectonic plates and volcanic eruptions.  We must be gods or something.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 15:03
man put reactors in place on earthquake prone land, man does off shore drilling, nobody said anything about gods except you, your pretzel logic rational mindperhaps wants to debate whether we did or not?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 15:03
I think Rob meant that the earthquake and resulting tsunami were not man-made.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 15:05
I think Rob is a string puller who likes to play games with semantics
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 15:06
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I think Rob is a string puller who likes to play games with semantics


Like no one else does that, that's all anyone ever does here.

Forget I mentioned it.
I want nothing to do with the derailment and closure of this thread, especially over some internet debating about energy while there is a country in disaster....

Start a nuclear power thread


Edited by JJLehto - March 16 2011 at 15:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 15:10
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I think Rob is a string puller who likes to play games with semantics


Like no one else does that, that's all anyone ever does here.

Forget I mentioned it.
I want nothing to do with the derailment and closure of this thread, especially over some internet debating about energy while there is a country in disaster....

Start a nuclear power thread

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 15:15
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I think Rob is a string puller who likes to play games with semantics


Like no one else does that, that's all anyone ever does here.

Forget I mentioned it.
I want nothing to do with the derailment and closure of this thread, especially over some internet debating about energy while there is a country in disaster....

Start a nuclear power thread

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Well said old chap!  No place for squabbles here. Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 15:16
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

What a stupid answer and hardly an excuse, a place where 4 tectonic plates come together with more active volcanoes than any other place on earth, no companies the engineers work for buy real estate, your reasoning is skewed as usual

Skewed? I said the engineers designed the plants very well. Considering the turmoil that is happening in the plant, the fact that a full catastrophe hasn't occurred is astonishing. Hats off the Engineers.

Yet, somehow that is all moot because the company/government, chose this location for the plant? Yeah, my reasoning is skewed. 

The engineers don't pick the location. They design the plants. They've done a good job.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 15:16
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I think Rob is a string puller who likes to play games with semantics


Like no one else does that, that's all anyone ever does here.

Forget I mentioned it.
I want nothing to do with the derailment and closure of this thread, especially over some internet debating about energy while there is a country in disaster....

Start a nuclear power thread

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I agree.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 17:17
Just heartwrenching  footage today of people looking for their loved ones, sometimes whole families, that simply were swept away.  One civil defense worker came home after hours of searching for survivors only to find he'd lost four relatives.  This may be the worst natural tragedy I've seen in my lifetime. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 18:19
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

What a stupid answer and hardly an excuse, a place where 4 tectonic plates come together with more active volcanoes than any other place on earth, no companies the engineers work for buy real estate, your reasoning is skewed as usual

Skewed? I said the engineers designed the plants very well. Considering the turmoil that is happening in the plant, the fact that a full catastrophe hasn't occurred is astonishing. Hats off the Engineers.

Yet, somehow that is all moot because the company/government, chose this location for the plant? Yeah, my reasoning is skewed. 

The engineers don't pick the location. They design the plants. They've done a good job.
Engineers do the best they can mostly.  The catastrophe was due to an earthquake happening at a location where it was impractical from a price standpoint to hold up to what the plants got hit with.  The World Trade Center towers were designed to withstand an airplane impact, just not one of that nature.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 19:56
It has been known for 40 years that the mark 1 nuclear reactors had serious flaws including being susceptible to explosion due to hydrogen buildupif the fuel rods became exposed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 20:29
Wow: earthquakes, tsunamis, multiple nuclear reactor failures, and volcanoes, I really hope Japan gets some help. Unhappy

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 04:31
not to mention a huge blizzard now

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2011 at 19:20
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

What a stupid answer and hardly an excuse, a place where 4 tectonic plates come together with more active volcanoes than any other place on earth, no companies the engineers work for buy real estate, your reasoning is skewed as usual

Skewed? I said the engineers designed the plants very well. Considering the turmoil that is happening in the plant, the fact that a full catastrophe hasn't occurred is astonishing. Hats off the Engineers.

Yet, somehow that is all moot because the company/government, chose this location for the plant? Yeah, my reasoning is skewed. 

The engineers don't pick the location. They design the plants. They've done a good job.

You can't design a plant without taking its location into account. And the location, surprise surprise, happens to be Japan, which is well known for its tectonic movements.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2011 at 09:08
Whats the latest on Japan? - I didnt see the news this week...
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