Do the Beatles get too much credit..

Edited by Dean - March 19 2011 at 07:49

They totally deserve every bit of credit, they influenced so many great bands and inspired many others, became very popular and revolutionized music in a very short period of time.

Mr.GizaRainbow wrote: They totally deserve every bit of credit, they influenced so many great bands and inspired many others, became very popular and revolutionized music in a very short period of time. no doubt they should get a lot of credit.

Their massive influence and popularity is indisputable, and one might well say, in fact I would, that they revolutionized pop music (I don't think they revolutionized musique concrete which they adpated techniques from which I've heard the Beatles credited for as originators), but I've framed this topipc/ poll in terms of origination and innovation of musical styles/ ideas/ techniques.  For those people who have said they deserve every bit of credit, that's where I have a problem.  I agree that they should get a lot of credit, but when I see people saying that the Beatles invented psychedelic music, Raga rock, Prog Rock, invented tape loop techniques for music etc, then I wonder.  People who worked with the Beatles (if once consider consider to be the fab four themselves and not people such as George Martin and studio engineers) may not get enough credit.

The Beatles were experimental, and while that kind of experimentation was uncommon in pop, or poppy, music (but not unheard of in similar styles of music, but more underground), it was common in Western Art music of the time.  I don't actually think that The Beatles were nearly as avant garde as some people claim.

And though I really like the Beatles 'music, and it was hugely influential to much music I love, I think that the likes of Stockhausen, Xenakis, Nono, Ligetti, Schnittke were doing even more interesting things.

Of course what I could say is that they receive too much credit from some and not enough from others.

Ruby900 wrote: Of course they don't, what a silly Poll.

Of course they do (at least from some), what a silly Post.

{edited to add emoticon as otherwise my response seems harsher than intended}. 

Incidentally, I suspect that some who voted did not understand how I was framing the question.


Edited by Logan - March 27 2011 at 13:33

Logan wrote: ... Their massive influence and popularity is indisputable, and one might well say, in fact I would, that they revolutionized pop music (I don't think they revolutionized musique concrete which they adpated techniques from which I've heard the Beatles credited for as originators), but I've framed this topipc/ poll in terms of origination and innovation of musical styles/ ideas/ techniques.  For those people who have said they deserve every bit of credit, that's where I have a problem.  I agree that they should get a lot of credit, but when I see people saying that the Beatles invented psychedelic music, Raga rock, Prog Rock, invented tape loop techniques for music etc, then I wonder.  People who worked with the Beatles (if once consider consider to be the fab four themselves and not people such as George Martin and studio engineers) may not get enough credit. ...

If anything the Beatles are given so much credit that's it's actually detrimental to the music artform as a whole. The gravity of their success and the influence resulting from that spoils the sound of music even today. 

Yes and no.

definitively no!!! the beatles deserve what they got, they're great close this stupid topic

They were four incredibly talented musicians and songwriters, who created a legacy that can't be denied. 

Elvis was big, but in no way was he as big as the Beatles were. Elvis was mostly an American phenomenon, the Beatles captivated worldwide audiences in a way that hasn't really happened since (without the aid of bruteforce marketing strategies). Bands are still emulating the style of the Bealtes to this day, you don't really see any popular acts trying to emulate Elvis. Elvis became dated very quickly.

Edited by Harry Hood - April 10 2011 at 22:06

Frank Zappa deserves far more credit than the Beatles...he was more influential on 20th century music as a whole not just because of the fact that his early albums directly influenced the Beatles, but because he paved the way for innovative quality and exceptional showmanship in modern music.  With a revolving cast of excellent musicians like Aynsley Dunbar, Vinnie Coliuata, Steve Vai (err..ok, maybe not all that great...), and others, his legacy is truly a foundation of rock music.  The Beatles couldn't function autonomously or even tour after awhile, because the mystique surrounding them got to be so bloated and perverse.