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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 08:17
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Three Gandalf-related LOL accounts are now active trying to push up this album: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=27414

Here are the suspicious accounts:
Gandalfs Mother
Gandalfino
Gandalff

Can their IPs be checked?


If that's one person manipulating ratings, he's doing a piss-poor job. 

Plus, these three accounts have join dates in three different years.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 08:19
I saw that, indeed, but I think it's worth a short check up. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2010 at 08:19
namorthac, tluchies, guisbert, flapmobiel87. These guys have just registered only to give 5 stars to album Excavation Of The Mind by Sky Architect. flapmobiel87  is even giving low ratings to albums that are competition to Excavation Of The Mind.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2010 at 08:59
Originally posted by Uros Krunic Uros Krunic wrote:

namorthac, tluchies, guisbert, flapmobiel87. These guys have just registered only to give 5 stars to album Excavation Of The Mind by Sky Architect. flapmobiel87  is even giving low ratings to albums that are competition to Excavation Of The Mind.

I've deleted flapmobiel87 & flopmobiel87 as they are obviously the same person - cant really say whether namorthac, tluches or guisbert have done anything wrong.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2010 at 21:40
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Three Gandalf-related LOL accounts are now active trying to push up this album: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=27414

Here are the suspicious accounts:
Gandalfs Mother
Gandalfino
Gandalff

Can their IPs be checked?


If that's one person manipulating ratings, he's doing a piss-poor job. 

Plus, these three accounts have join dates in three different years.
They aren't manipulating. They're different people.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2010 at 22:02
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Three Gandalf-related LOL accounts are now active trying to push up this album: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=27414

Here are the suspicious accounts:
Gandalfs Mother
Gandalfino
Gandalff

Can their IPs be checked?


If that's one person manipulating ratings, he's doing a piss-poor job. 

Plus, these three accounts have join dates in three different years.
They aren't manipulating. They're different people.


Yes, we established that nearly 5 months ago.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2010 at 22:19
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Three Gandalf-related LOL accounts are now active trying to push up this album: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=27414

Here are the suspicious accounts:
Gandalfs Mother
Gandalfino
Gandalff

Can their IPs be checked?


If that's one person manipulating ratings, he's doing a piss-poor job. 

Plus, these three accounts have join dates in three different years.
They aren't manipulating. They're different people.


Yes, we established that nearly 5 months ago.
Woops. Didn't notice date. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2010 at 02:28

If it is Motorpsycho fans, this matter should not be reported to the Pa Admins. It should rather be reported to the local mental hospitals and the Gandalff's should be taken care off by them.

Get their addresses and send out ambulances. 

Half-joking..........

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2010 at 17:48
bunchakeze.........seventh best album of the year with 7 reviews and ratings......six of them by people who joined the site yesterday...............
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2010 at 17:58
^ There is one solid review of the band by epignosis..........the rest of the reviews are a disservice to the band and the site written by folks who obviously joined the site to write  weak reviews about the band
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 07:17
I thought the same - obviously some new fanboys around here to promote the band Smile
however -  the reviews are okay and don't violate any policy ...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 09:39
So be it. I am sure it is a very talented band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 10:09
I noticed the rave revews for Bun Chakeze and it made me wonder who joins just to review an album? Obviously fans of the group but the band deserve recognition in any case as the music is excellent. i sent in my review to even things out - not 5 star but 4 stars deserving at least.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 10:30
With the latest reviews which are well written it is obvious this is a new talented band, many people come to the site I am sure to find new music and it helps immensely to have well written reviews.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 10:57
A lot of times when people join at once like that it is band members and their friends and family, as Rivertree said though, they didn't really break any rules and it is an occurrence you can find all over this site with lesser known bands.
On the other hand, people who join the site and do extensive ratings manipulations, for instance one star for all the bands they don't like and 5 for the ones they do like in obvious manipulative patterns, those people do get the boot. Often times those kind of people will have multiple accounts which is also against PA rules.

Edited by Easy Money - September 18 2010 at 10:58
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 10:59
The reviews are from different people, from different locations in the world (no fakes, I checked IP addresses). If the band is as good as they claim, the collab crowd will start reviewing soon enough, and if the album is not a master piece, the rating and ranking system will even it out at that time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 11:05
Certainly not looking for anyone to get the boot and it is easy to disregard inept reviews, in the case of this band a few solid reviewers have stepped forward and explained very well this music.....instead of one of the inept reviews which ends with this sentence........." I personally think they should be more out there and getting the publicity they deserve.I say put them at the top of the charts where they belong."......nothing in the review to tell me why the band`s music belongs at the top of the charts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 11:38
I do lose some respect for bands/ artists when the musicians rate their own works very highly, and when it is obvious that their friends/ family/ associates/ publicists... are trying to prop up a record. I'm more okay with it when friends and family state their relation, but in various past cases it has been obvious that people were actually lying in their reviews or when -- stupidly in the past,  some musicians have claimed that they just discovered some band when it's  their projects (has happened with forum topics advertising a band as well as reviews).  At least one of the raters of Bun who gave it five stars isn't hiding his relation (a band member), but to me it seems disreputable when you rate your own work really highly (even if it is a collective effort).  I understand that publicity is important, and many would not notice such details.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2010 at 10:20
It seems to me that immediatly after Anta was added to Space/Psych, the band members joined to rate the album in order to bump it in the charts.

ANTA The Tree That Bears The Equine Fruit ratings only


chronological order | showing rating only
Joe and Joel (Leo L)? Come on...

The music is very good, though, I left them a nice rating too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2010 at 10:33
Yes, it's a pity Ouch at least 'Statick' and 'Giant Clown' are band members for sure
don't understand such a behaviour (I'm a fanboy of my own) - embarrassing

ah .. by the way - I like their music ... there is no need for such a nonsense!



Edited by Rivertree - November 21 2010 at 10:35


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