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Harry Hood
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 12:44 |
CrazyDiamond wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot:
THE CLASH 
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The Clash are not, never were, and never could be considered prog.
But they are the greatest punk band ever.
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Drew
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 12:47 |
Ya- can i add Green Day, The Used, and My Chemical Romance?  The Clash, hahaha
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pakish
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 12:56 |
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TOEFL in latin america = neolanguage
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horza
Prog Reviewer
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:02 |
Drew wrote:
Basically anything thats both old and British- Is not good
well, besides Pink Floyd. (just my Opnion- thats all)
New and British kicks ass- Porcupine Tree- Threshold- |
Old and British not good?????
Would there be prog rock without British roots???
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Cinema
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:07 |
I have a few:
- King Crimson
- VDGG
- Zappa
- ELP
- All progressive metal
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:11 |
horza wrote:
Drew wrote:
Basically anything thats both old and British- Is not good
well, besides Pink Floyd. (just my Opnion- thats all)
New and British kicks ass- Porcupine Tree- Threshold-
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Old and British not good????? Would there be prog rock without British roots??? Careful  |
Not liking the roots of Prog is nothing to be careful about. I'm not a big fan of early / swing-era Jazz, and not one person has told me that I should. It's called taste.
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CrazyDiamond
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:12 |
Harry Hood wrote:
The Clash are not, never were, and never could be considered prog.
But they are the greatest punk band ever.
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WHERE DID i SAY THAT THEY ARE PROG?
THEY AREW JUST CRAP, WHATEVER IS THE MUSIC THEY MAKE. 
OPS AND, ADD OASIS TO THIS LIST 
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Drew
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:18 |
alan_pfeifer wrote:
horza wrote:
Drew wrote:
Basically anything thats both old and British- Is not good
well, besides Pink Floyd. (just my Opnion- thats all)
New and British kicks ass- Porcupine Tree- Threshold-
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Old and British not good????? Would there be prog rock without British roots??? Careful  |
Not liking the roots of Prog is nothing to be careful about. I'm not a big fan of early / swing-era Jazz, and not one person has told me that I should. It's called taste.
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Thanks Alan- perfectly said.
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Harry Hood
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:28 |
CrazyDiamond wrote:
Harry Hood wrote:
The Clash are not, never were, and never could be considered prog.
But they are the greatest punk band ever.
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WHERE DID i SAY THAT THEY ARE PROG?
THEY AREW JUST CRAP, WHATEVER IS THE MUSIC THEY MAKE. 
OPS AND, ADD OASIS TO THIS LIST 
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The Clash is certainly not crap.
Just because something isn't prog doesn't mean it isn't good.
I think some people here have forgotten that.
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Revan
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:32 |
Sorry, but i think i don't get YES... It's just that Anderson's voice
turns me off. I feel ashamed because all my progger friends love them...
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Revan
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:38 |
oh, i forgot to mention Magma
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GatesOfDelirium
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:39 |
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Drew
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:39 |
Revan- cant help but agree- (his voice)- but its wierd because I love Geddy's. Yeah- go figure me out. But Yes sure can play!
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horza
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:42 |
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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texasron
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 14:02 |
I've tried, Lord knows but....
King Crimson and ELP . I want to like them, I really do.
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CrazyDiamond
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 14:21 |
Harry Hood wrote:
CrazyDiamond wrote:
Harry Hood wrote:
The Clash are not, never were, and never could be considered prog.
But they are the greatest punk band ever.
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WHERE DID i SAY THAT THEY ARE PROG?
THEY AREW JUST CRAP, WHATEVER IS THE MUSIC THEY MAKE. 
OPS AND, ADD OASIS TO THIS LIST 
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The Clash is certainly not crap.
Just because something isn't prog doesn't mean it isn't good.
I think some people here have forgotten that.
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This is your conclusion, I respect it, but you can't make conclusions basing yourself on words that nobody said. I like more non-prog bands than you can imagine, so this is a false statement that "isn't prog isn't good". Clash is crap IMHO, prog or not, just crap, it was only a personal consideration, and remember:
nobody said NON PROG = CRAP 
___BYE___
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arcer
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 14:42 |
King Crimson - just can't understand the fuss at all. Half-assed and half-baked.
Vddg - Just too odd for me
Most RIO - can handle some Hatfield and the North but most of it is too arch for my liking
Any Prog-Metal - what exactly is the point of this? Why on earth would
you bother with prog dumbed down for angst-ridden teenagers?
and finally the (IMO) laughably awful ELP - they make me crack up every
time, just so self-important and self-regarding. Add in some rubbish
vocals, tub-thumping drums and end of pier, glittery suit organ
showing-off and you have a band that just makes me cringe every time I
hear them.
There are so many I struggle with I'm surprised I like prog at all
However, Rush 74-84, Genesis up to Abacab, Yes up to Drama, Kansas up
to Audio Visions, PFM, Gentle Giant, Tangerine Dream, The Flower Kings,
Vangelis, Glass Hammer etc etc make it all better...
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bmorgan
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 15:05 |
horza wrote:
Which band have you tried to get into because they seem to be the type of band you would expect to enjoy,and try as you might,you just can't get into them or see the point?? For me (I must confess) it is KING CRIMSON -I'm sorry but i just don't get it with them. |
I can't stand King Crimson either. Don't like Traffic, Pink Floyd is not worthy of worship, and while I think Gentle Giant - obviously a talented group - had some amazing tunes, I can only tolerate so much of them.
I'm more interested in Kansas, but even they drop the ball at times.
My love is jazz-rock, rock-jazz, jazz fusion - whatever you want to call it.
Bottom line is that we don't have to like everything......it's just impossible.
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The universe is wider than our views of it. - Thoreau
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horza
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 15:44 |
I don't think it IS possible to like everything  its also improbable that you will like everything that your fave bands produce. I will give Gentle Giant a try over the next few weeks.
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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flashcptlyr
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Joined: September 05 2005
Location: Australia
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:05 |
Revan wrote:
Sorry, but i think i don't get YES... It's just that Anderson's voice turns me off. I feel ashamed because all my progger friends love them...
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Yep!! Anderson's voice
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G.F.C.for sure!!
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