Do The Decemberists have people fooled? |
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:21 | ||
They didn't petition to be added here. For the record I literally threatened to hold my breath until I turned blue if the Prog Folk team didn't accept them. Not very dignified for a supposedly mature adult, but it worked. In fact, my eldest son (who was once an active member here) tried to turn me onto them a few years ago and I wasn't interested. But coming on the heels of spending an evening watching 'A Practical Handbook' with him there was no doubt in my mind. 'The Hazards of Love' album and concert have just reinforced that opinion. |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65266 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:22 | ||
Whistler might have a thing er two to say about that I myself have yet to buy an album so I have nothing interesting to say |
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Raff
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:23 | ||
I think one of the reasons why Whizzle hasn't run away from the HP team is that I've gotten into The Decemberists big time...
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:25 | ||
Well the songs provided onm PA definitely show me Folk....don't hear the "Prog"...........but..........but! I need to hear a full album really. And anyway, some people find Prog where others don't.
Edited by Snow Dog - June 13 2009 at 17:25 |
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micky
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:28 | ||
exactly.... Ian... it was the DVD that sealed the deal for me as well. Check it out...
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Raff
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:32 | ||
Those three songs on the band's entry page are as far from prog as you can imagine... Great songs, all of them (especially "The Mariner's Revenge Song"), but, as Ian correctly pointed out, mainly in a folk vein. To hear their progressive side, you should turn to something like "Odalisque" from their debut album, "The Island" from The Crane Wife, the whole of the Tain EP, and of course most of The Hazards of Love.
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micky
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:34 | ||
yeah.. maybe a revamping of the song samples might be in order... not sure who is in charge of that however.
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:51 | ||
I submitted The Tain as well but it wasn't added since that song comprises the entire EP. You can get a sense here though: Part I (with the Los Angeles Philharmonic) Part II (same show) |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:55 | ||
BTW, you can listen to (or legally download free) the entire Hazards of Love concert live on NPR here. |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus |
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~Rael~
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 247 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:00 | ||
Dude, what the hell? What's with the sudden animosity? I put down honest opinions and thoughts in this thread. Listen, there are bands I like a lot, and at one point I started equating what I liked with being progressive. I have learned this isn't the case, I thought maybe it was happening with The Decemberists. Some people pn here like them, and as such thought they were prog. After this thread, I realize this hypothesis was not only hasty, but wrong, as I am the one being fooled, in that it is my personal tastes and limitations preventing me from hearing the progressive qualities of thier music. That will be my last defense of my opinions and thoughts concerning this thread. As for what I listen to, here is a list (containing some bands I have listened to in quite a while, and many bands I mos tlikely forgot to list.) Taken from my Facebook page, lol. Tool, Dream Theater, Kansas, Lamb of God, Mudvayne, Into Eternity, Canvas Solaris, Gordian Knot, Porcupine Tree, Coheed and Cambria, Pain of Salvation, The Flower Kings, Dimmu Borgir, Fleet Foxes, They Might Be Giants, Ekotren, Spock's Beard, Rage Against the Machine, Between the Buried and Me, Th3ee, Happy the Man, Pantera, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Opeth, Primus, The Mars Volta, Gentle Giant, System of a Down, Planet X, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, Slipknot, Killswitch Engage, Pat Methany, Zappa, Evergrey, Spiral Architect, Rush, The Beatles, Jon Lennon, Metallica, A Perfect Cricle, Matisyahu, Wilco, Beatles, Led Zepplin, Sixteen Horsepower, Devin Townsend, Arsonists Get All The Girls, Divine Heresy, In Flames, August Burns Red. Edited by ~Rael~ - June 13 2009 at 18:01 |
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angelmk
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:00 | ||
well this is the hottest topic these days , and The Decemberists got the attention they deserve , and simply becouse Rael doesn't like them !! and denies their Progressiveness pfffff ..judgeing made upon his taste ..well things just don't go that way
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~Rael~
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 247 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:02 | ||
If you read my post, you'll see that there were other factors that made me think they weren't progressive other than personal taste.
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I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . .
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:03 | ||
What is progressive? |
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:04 | ||
Love those guys. Did you know Wovenhand is here? Even I can't totally defend their progginess, but I'm glad they're here nonetheless. |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus |
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:08 | ||
Thanks Clem for the links.
Can people stop having a go at -Rael- please?
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angelmk
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:10 | ||
is that so ? can u point to one,besides taste ?
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~Rael~
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 247 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:14 | ||
Sure.
". . . 18th century influences. Very interesting, I thought, and then discovered those "18th century" influences were based on the song beginning with a keyboard programmed to sound like a harpsicord, and then it turned into a rather mundane rock song, with a poor Janis Joplin impersonater thrown in." And thanks for the link, Clem, I'll definitely check them out. Edited by ~Rael~ - June 13 2009 at 18:15 |
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65266 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:22 | ||
hmmm.. overblown, pretentious, and way too ambitious that's prog |
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WalterDigsTunes
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:25 | ||
Rock and an orchestra... heaven knows that wasn't done decades ago, right?
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angelmk
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 22 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1955 |
Posted: June 13 2009 at 18:28 | ||
may i know which song are you talking about? is that The Wanting Comes in Waves ?
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