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Points: 97 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2007 at 20:57
I haven't heard their recorded output yet but saw them at Graspop in 2006 and wasn't very impressed.  They pull out some material in the vein of simple Meshuggah style but didn't seem to have the ingenuity to keep it interesting. 

Although.....I had been in Amsterdam the night before so....Tongue
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Points: 2819 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 01:46
Originally posted by Era V. Era V. wrote:

I haven't heard their recorded output yet but saw them at Graspop in 2006 and wasn't very impressed.  They pull out some material in the vein of simple Meshuggah style but didn't seem to have the ingenuity to keep it interesting.  Although.....I had been in Amsterdam the night before so....Tongue


Simple....Meshuggah....Style???????

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Speaking of Meshuggah...Coprofago takes a huge influence of Meshuggah and makes it their own unique sound. Awesome band...'Genesis' is my recommended album.
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Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Originally posted by Era V. Era V. wrote:

I haven't heard their recorded output yet but saw them at Graspop in 2006 and wasn't very impressed.  They pull out some material in the vein of simple Meshuggah style but didn't seem to have the ingenuity to keep it interesting.  Although.....I had been in Amsterdam the night before so....Tongue


Simple....Meshuggah....Style???????
 
Word order confusion perhaps....what I meant was Meshuggah's style....simplified Wink
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Points: 2819 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 12:54
Originally posted by Era V. Era V. wrote:

Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Originally posted by Era V. Era V. wrote:

I haven't heard their recorded output yet but saw them at Graspop in 2006 and wasn't very impressed.  They pull out some material in the vein of simple Meshuggah style but didn't seem to have the ingenuity to keep it interesting.  Although.....I had been in Amsterdam the night before so....Tongue
Simple....Meshuggah....Style???????

 

Word order confusion perhaps....what I meant was Meshuggah's style....simplified Wink



OHHHH.....ok. Phew. Thanking for clearing that up good sir.
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2007 at 17:11
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Speaking of Meshuggah...Coprofago takes a huge influence of Meshuggah and makes it their own unique sound. Awesome band...'Genesis' is my recommended album.
 
Coprofago is incredible,and a band I have been touting in the forum for quite some time...to little or no avail.
 
I like Genesis...but feel that Unorthodox Creative Criteria is better.They broaden their horizon's and experiment a bit more on that album.


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Points: 2819 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2007 at 18:57
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Speaking of Meshuggah...Coprofago takes a huge influence of Meshuggah and makes it their own unique sound. Awesome band...'Genesis' is my recommended album.

 

Coprofago is incredible,and a band I have been touting in the forum for quite some time...to little or no avail.

 

I like Genesis...but feel that Unorthodox Creative Criteria is better.They broaden their horizon's and experiment a bit more on that album.


I know...such an amazing band. I only gave Unorthodox two listens and gave Genesis quite a bit. I'll get back to Unorthodox for a better opinion of it. I'll review there albums when I decide to start reviewing stuff.

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Anyone ever hear of Burst?
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Are there any 'extreme death metal' sites that have streaming music? You know, for us poor folk who have to use dialup? I'm 'dying' to hear some of this music, but cd purchases are out of the question at the moment.
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Last.fm doesn't have full samples, but usually a decent amount of 30 second streamable songs for every artist.
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Just out of curiousity..what kind of file is 'Gamma Knife' on the Canvas Solaris page on the archives. Or what quality is it...the version on my cd seems to be a really toned down version of it.
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Don't flame me, but simply riffwise, the guitar parts for Meshuggah aren't anything to technically behold, its just memorizing a weird rhythm and ignoring the drums behind it. Tomas Haake's parts on the other hand are extremely difficult for the sole reason that he's basically playing 2 beats at once constantly. The solo's may be difficult, but the riffs just don't strike me as very hard to play, just hard to memorize sometimes (this is more exemplified by the later output that I've heard).


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Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Don't flame me, but simply riffwise, the guitar parts for Meshuggah aren't anything to technically behold, its just memorizing a weird rhythm and ignoring the drums behind it. Tomas Haake's parts on the other hand are extremely difficult for the sole reason that he's basically playing 2 beats at once constantly. The solo's may be difficult, but the riffs just don't strike me as very hard to play, just hard to memorize sometimes (this is more exemplified by the later output that I've heard).


Well, technicality comes in more then one way. It's not just noodling around like crazy.
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Originally posted by guano guano wrote:

Are there any 'extreme death metal' sites that have streaming music? You know, for us poor folk who have to use dialup? I'm 'dying' to hear some of this music, but cd purchases are out of the question at the moment.
 
Check some of the bands here in the archives under Tech/Extreme.....I am adding samples to a lot of band pages.


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Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Just out of curiousity..what kind of file is 'Gamma Knife' on the Canvas Solaris page on the archives. Or what quality is it...the version on my cd seems to be a really toned down version of it.
 
I added that,and just checked it out and it sounds a little...OFF.
 
That has happened once before to a sample I added,it's almost like it's playing at the wrong speed,but the sample is from my cd and plays fine.
 
I will delete it and try again.


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Points: 2819 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2007 at 14:55
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Just out of curiousity..what kind of file is 'Gamma Knife' on the Canvas Solaris page on the archives. Or what quality is it...the version on my cd seems to be a really toned down version of it.

 

I added that,and just checked it out and it sounds a little...OFF.

 

That has happened once before to a sample I added,it's almost like it's playing at the wrong speed,but the sample is from my cd and plays fine.

 

I will delete it and try again.


I think the sample sounds better.
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So I've been spending some time trying to get back into the roots of this whole tech-metal thing...some recommendations, some of them very obvious some not; Possessed, Pestilence, Believer, Tourniquet, Detritus (those last three are christian metal bands incidentally - don't let it put you off, some of the most technical music you'll ever hear, especially Tourniquet).
 
I've been thinking that some of those really early super fast thrash and death metal bands just had amazing technique, the likes of Altars of Madness by Morbid Angel - there's some crazy stuff going on there.  Those musicians had to make themselves awesome players because they didn't learn their techniques....they created them!  To play death metal nowadays all you have to do is look at some tab and then thrash away, but back then....they were really carving forward. 
 
Anyway, bit of a rambling post - my utmost recommendation for today though is Tourniquet - get the albums Pathogenic Ocular Disonance and Microscopic View Of A Telescopic Realm and take it from there!
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Tourniquet sounds very interesting,thanks for the recommendation!!!!!!!


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not really prog metal but I highly recommend Autopsy's Mental Funeral album, it combines the fat riffage of stoner metal with the brutality of death metal along with the atmosphere of early celtic frost. They do lots of wicked tempo change stuff that makes the standard death metal devices work so much better especially when a wailing solo kicks in at the same time.
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Originally posted by FruMp FruMp wrote:

not really prog metal but I highly recommend Autopsy's Mental Funeral album, it combines the fat riffage of stoner metal with the brutality of death metal along with the atmosphere of early celtic frost. They do lots of wicked tempo change stuff that makes the standard death metal devices work so much better especially when a wailing solo kicks in at the same time.


hahaha. Yeah they are pretty god.
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