DVD or Blu Ray?

The T wrote: WalterDigsTunes wrote: Mr ProgFreak wrote: Have a look at this comparison: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/3783031804_3760f32e53_o.jpg (use the magnifying function of your browser to make sure that you're actually looking at the image in its native resolution - users without full HD displays will have to scroll) Please, does anyone of the "blu-ray is not that much of an improvement" agree that there is a striking difference? Smaller pixels! Wowie zowie, allow me to bring out my fat wallet to buy the Blu-ray player, Blu-ray discs and HD TV! 1989 again. Nobody's asking for your money. But if people say a clearly inferior format is better than a clearly superior one, it's quite ridiculous. There's no subjectivity here. Bluray IS better than dvd. Not everybody needs it of course. I bought mine when I bought an HDTV, not before.

Really? So whenever I rent or buy a DVD and have an annoying Bluray ad thrust in my face, nobody's asking for my money?

Slartibartfast wrote: A Person wrote: I would never say it's not better, but until I'm filthy rich or the hardware is dirt cheap, it's not happening. I guess it's no longer bleeding edge technology but just bloody expensive.  Rewards often come to those who wait.

True. Regardless, I prefer DVDs because I can afford them, and that is the poll question, so that's what I picked.

The T wrote: WalterDigsTunes wrote: The T wrote: WalterDigsTunes wrote: Mr ProgFreak wrote: Have a look at this comparison: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/3783031804_3760f32e53_o.jpg (use the magnifying function of your browser to make sure that you're actually looking at the image in its native resolution - users without full HD displays will have to scroll) Please, does anyone of the "blu-ray is not that much of an improvement" agree that there is a striking difference? Smaller pixels! Wowie zowie, allow me to bring out my fat wallet to buy the Blu-ray player, Blu-ray discs and HD TV! 1989 again. Nobody's asking for your money. But if people say a clearly inferior format is better than a clearly superior one, it's quite ridiculous. There's no subjectivity here. Bluray IS better than dvd. Not everybody needs it of course. I bought mine when I bought an HDTV, not before.  Really? So whenever I rent or buy a DVD and have an annoying Bluray ad thrust in my face, nobody's asking for my money? Not you personally, of course. Whenever you buy your 1989-prog and the disc comes with a little catalogue of bands in the record label, they're also asking you for your money. You might decide to buy them or not. That's your prerogative.

Awful comparison, since I don't have to fast forward through an advertisement for BRAND NEW FORMAT every time I opt to listen to classic progressive rock.

^^ of course they want you to upgrade. And when you upgrade, you will be rewarded by improved picture quality. At any time, it's your call. Personally, I'm all in favor of improving picture quality. As a consumer, you'll simply have to plan ahead a bit. Did you honestly not know that eventually DVDs would be succeeded by a format with higher resolution when you purchased your DVD player? Come on - of course you knew.

Edited by Mr ProgFreak - May 13 2010 at 14:03

Many people here have fully adopted mp3 as their new music format. Now, unlike with bluray/dvd, mp3s AREN'T better than cds in the audio part (in fact, they can be worse) but they are easy to download, carry around in any device, and played without the need of physical media. So people adopted them for COMFORT, not for quality. In bluray/dvd case, comfort remains the same (though bluray allows for better menus and extras), but the quality is DEFINITELY BETTER. So, is it so outrageous to want to upgrade to a system that has a considerable qualitative difference when, with music, people have switched sometimes TO THE DETRIMENT of audio quality just for comfort and availability? 

The T wrote: WalterDigsTunes wrote: Mr ProgFreak wrote: ^^ of course they want you to upgrade. And when you upgrade, you will be rewarded by improved picture quality. At any time, it's your call. Personally, I'm all in favor of improving picture quality. As a consumer, you'll simply have to plan ahead a bit. Did you honestly not know that eventually DVDs would be succeeded by a format with higher resolution when you purchased your DVD player? Come on - of course you knew. And they'll be rewarded with our money and the satisfaction of knowing that we'll buy into their endless repackagings, new formats, new hardware and other corpo-weasel shenanigans based on planned obsolescence and the constant allure of OH LOOK ITS NEU TECHNOLOGY! I'm starting to believe that your "no prog after 1989" motto really comes from the fall of the Berlin wall that year.  I'm also against forcing people to buy sh*t they don't need. I'm not saying you HAVE to upgrade. But I'm saying that if you face that option, bluray IS BETTER PERIOD. And by a WIDE margin. If you don't plan to upgrade anytime soon, this is irrelevant for you.

When happens when DVDs go the way of VHS and become virtually impossibly to find? Inconvenient, to say the least. I'd rather let the new fad sink than have to go out of my way and spend again.

WalterDigsTunes wrote: Mr ProgFreak wrote: ^^ of course they want you to upgrade. And when you upgrade, you will be rewarded by improved picture quality. At any time, it's your call. Personally, I'm all in favor of improving picture quality. As a consumer, you'll simply have to plan ahead a bit. Did you honestly not know that eventually DVDs would be succeeded by a format with higher resolution when you purchased your DVD player? Come on - of course you knew. And they'll be rewarded with our money and the satisfaction of knowing that we'll buy into their endless repackagings, new formats, new hardware and other corpo-weasel shenanigans based on planned obsolescence and the constant allure of OH LOOK ITS NEU TECHNOLOGY!

Speak only for yourself. I'm very picky about what I buy ... for example, I'm not getting the newly released box set of LOTR because it doesn't contain the extended versions of the movies (which have already been released on DVD - apparently at a later point yet another box set of LOTR will be released).

Is anyone have talk about the possible improvement of the quality sound on a BLU-RAY over the DVD. Is that true that a DTS HD sound is better than a 5.1 surround? I am not a expert, but for a Forum that talks about music, it's strange that we only focus on the picture quality, unless there's not a real improvement of the sound with the HD sound. What's the point of having HDMI cable if it's not to upgrade the sound?

Bluray allows 7.1 sound, whereas dvd only offers 5.1 (not a big difference I would say though). Also, DTS-HD and DolbyTrueHD are lossless formats. What you hear is exactly what is there to hear, unlike in DVD where there's compression loss.  You need fairly decent equipment to hear the differences, though.

Edited by The T - May 13 2010 at 18:33

^ Do you mean "Lousy compression" - just checking. Good arguments for and against here.