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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2011 at 15:40
since i dont want to multiple quote, im just going to bring up Fripp being important to metal music.

Like rock music, metal would have been created in some form or another eventually. However i was referring to an interview i remember, where Ozzy Osbourne (or Tony Iommi, i dont remember) said that if it werent for 21st Century Schizoid Man, Black Sabbath would not have gone in a heavier direction, and we all know that Sabbath are said to have been the first metal band.

Im sorry, but after all these years, i cannot agree with the fact that guys like Hendrix, Clapton (Cream), etc.. were more influential on metal. Sure they inspired countless guitarists and other musicians, but i think there were more important people in that area. In fact, guys like Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Clapton, whoever, were more influential in the development of Jazz-Rock Fusion, than metal. Jimmy Page is probably the exception.
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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2011 at 15:44
Originally posted by PlumAplomb PlumAplomb wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Rock: Elvis
Country: Johnny Cash
Classical: Beethoven
Metal: Jimi Hendrix
Prog: Robert Fripp 
Jazz: Miles Davis


to be honest, had it not been for Fripp, metal music would probably not exist. And though i understand why you chose him for prog, but who influenced him? that person(s) would have to be the one(s) who influenced prog the most i think.

everything else i agree with, except maybe Bach for classical (but it could go either way)

Jimi influenced guitarists, not necessarily whole genres of music

EDIT: wait, Elvis would be nothing had Chuck Berry not paved the way



i think there wouldn't be metal music without beethoven imo, even megadeath were classically trained julliard musicians. or wagner or mussorsky? or more simply put, there wouldn't be metal without classical.
i grew up with classical so i accredit that mostly to most influential. tchaikovsky is my favorite though, you can accredit him to symphonic prog maybe? or grieg?

i also like to think of that question on a smaller scale as well, i like to think that without gloria gaynors i will survive, i might not have riot grrl music for instance. without tony wilson i wouldn't have madchester. everyone paves some way


of course, i mean without classical, most music wouldnt exist, at least not in the way it exists now.

late 70s, and most 80s metal is highly classically inspired. That influence seems to have diminished during the 90s, and from whatever metal i hear these days that isnt prog metal, the classical influence is completely gone, unless the band was directly influenced from one of the 80s bands.
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Points: 8650 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2011 at 16:35
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

since i dont want to multiple quote, im just going to bring up Fripp being important to metal music.

Like rock music, metal would have been created in some form or another eventually. However i was referring to an interview i remember, where Ozzy Osbourne (or Tony Iommi, i dont remember) said that if it werent for 21st Century Schizoid Man, Black Sabbath would not have gone in a heavier direction, and we all know that Sabbath are said to have been the first metal band.

Im sorry, but after all these years, i cannot agree with the fact that guys like Hendrix, Clapton (Cream), etc.. were more influential on metal. Sure they inspired countless guitarists and other musicians, but i think there were more important people in that area. In fact, guys like Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Clapton, whoever, were more influential in the development of Jazz-Rock Fusion, than metal. Jimmy Page is probably the exception.
The first true heavy metal band was Blue Cheer, who were before Zep, Sabbath, Purple, etc.and were incredibly loud and heavy, i mean incredibly!
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Points: 905 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2011 at 23:32
Probably whatever old guy who invented music theory.

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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2011 at 00:19
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Probably whatever old guy who invented music theory.
Nobody invented music theory. It was developed through the ages.

I'm surprised you didn'y say Alice Cooper
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