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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2009 at 03:47

No, definitely not. Life-long sentence is the way. I'm not saying that these people are saints, or kind people. If they murdered once, they can do it again. But justice is blind, so errors may happened.

Sentencing innocent person to death is not so nice, isn't it ? Anyway, our country is one of these (majority, or minority?) where we don't have capital p., even we talked about it a lot in school (you know, education).

Of course, this has its bad side, there were cases (talking about Czech Republic), where these people escaped from prison. And they killed again. Better prison guards I suppose ? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2009 at 07:34
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Now back to reality:

Four cops gunned down today.  Let's look at the toll:

Sergeant, age 39.  He is survived by a wife, two daughters and a son.

Officer, age 37. He is survived by a former wife and a daughter.

Officer, age 40. She is survived by her husband and two children.

Officer age 42. He is survived by a wife and three children.

Now explain to me why the person who is responsible deserves anything, even his life.
 
Last I heard they hadn't caught the guy but from what I've heard this was  a cold blooded executuion. 
Medieval torture for this guy once they get him.
Update :

 The cops just killed the guy who was holed up in a friend's house and saved some time and money. Next idiot step right up.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2009 at 08:16
Guess nobody could be glad about it... but at least it's a relief to have one killer less... And for those who said that these topics are useless, well, see it this way... If we have a perfect system, where killer could get a 100% regenaration and can live a regular life, then I would say that capital punishment should not have to exists, but when you see that the medicine is worse than the illness, well, it's a good option...
 
I'm against utopia, we live in a cruel world and we have to defend life... but not the murderers/rapers life...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2009 at 10:15
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Now back to reality:

Four cops gunned down today.  Let's look at the toll:

Sergeant, age 39.  He is survived by a wife, two daughters and a son.

Officer, age 37. He is survived by a former wife and a daughter.

Officer, age 40. She is survived by her husband and two children.

Officer age 42. He is survived by a wife and three children.

Now explain to me why the person who is responsible deserves anything, even his life.
 
Last I heard they hadn't caught the guy but from what I've heard this was  a cold blooded executuion. 
Medieval torture for this guy once they get him.
Update :

 The cops just killed the guy who was holed up in a friend's house and saved some time and money. Next idiot step right up.
 
 
Oh that is the only good news of this story!  It's so much better when it ends this way.  The families don't have to go through a long trial, watching the scum act defiant and spout a bunch of nonsense.  No lengthly appeals at taxpayer expense.  He's just gone.  Fantastic.  Too bad more of them don't end this way. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2009 at 12:13
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Now back to reality:

Four cops gunned down today.  Let's look at the toll:

Sergeant, age 39.  He is survived by a wife, two daughters and a son.

Officer, age 37. He is survived by a former wife and a daughter.

Officer, age 40. She is survived by her husband and two children.

Officer age 42. He is survived by a wife and three children.

Now explain to me why the person who is responsible deserves anything, even his life.
 
Last I heard they hadn't caught the guy but from what I've heard this was  a cold blooded executuion. 
Medieval torture for this guy once they get him.
Update :

 The cops just killed the guy who was holed up in a friend's house and saved some time and money. Next idiot step right up.
 
 
Oh that is the only good news of this story!  It's so much better when it ends this way.  The families don't have to go through a long trial, watching the scum act defiant and spout a bunch of nonsense.  No lengthly appeals at taxpayer expense.  He's just gone.  Fantastic.  Too bad more of them don't end this way. 


The guy sounded like he had some mental issues going on. Claimed he was Jesus and the world was coming to an end. I am glad that no further lives were lost in this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2009 at 20:41
Well the last chapter has been written for one guy.  I'm sure postscripts are to follow.
 
Chapters for the victims' families, and his friends and family who abetted him over the last day or two, are yet to be written.  I would say in the end there are far more than five lives destroyed.
 
I would suggest anyone interested in the arguments for/against capital punishment read Norman Mailer's The Executioners Song, which gives an almost minute by minute account -- from crime to death -- of what it's all about.  Remarkable book, and still one of my favorites after all these years.  Oh, and BOC's Fear the Reaper is a looming presence in the narrative.  Highly recommended if you are interested in the topic.
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