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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 06:33

I think progressive rock should have two elements to have full credibility to the form:-
1 - It should push/progress music forward - have new or contemporary elements to it.
2 - It should should have a progressive flow to it - not have a verse,bridge,corus format etc.

A true progressive rock musician would naturely have both these elements within his mindset.
Older forms of music can be incorporated into the sound as long as it is presented in a
contempory format.
When Symphonic prog first emerged Classical forms of music were rearranged
so they could be used with rock instruments & was generally a fusion of styles, anyway,
which gave it a contempory sound - as an example.Classical music has a natural flow on the
other hand anyway.
Retro-prog is when a musician takes previously created prog rock music almost note for note or
re-arranges it slightly to create a sound that replicates it.He is thus not going through a
creative process to create his music - basically copying a previous piece of work.If you
listen to The Flower Kings - Retropolis album you should understand what I mean (although not
totally a perfect example).Not quite plagarism but very close to being so.

It has been mentioned above that prog doesn't need pop music's need to keep on re-inventing
itself.I disagree, the modern rock musician would naturally want to push the boundaries (especially prog)
due to/or as a consequence of their rebellious instincts.

To reply to the original question.Retro prog does progress due to its natural flow,but I don't
think most prog listeners appreciate it that much because it does not push the boundaries of
music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 08:56
Originally posted by Scratchy Scratchy wrote:

Retro-prog is when a musician takes previously created prog rock music almost note for note or
re-arranges it slightly to create a sound that replicates it.He is thus not going through a
creative process to create his music - basically copying a previous piece of work.If you
listen to The Flower Kings - Retropolis album you should understand what I mean (although not
totally a perfect example).Not quite plagarism but very close to being so.



What specific piece of music does 'Retropolis' copy almost note for note?

I think you have completely overstated your case. This is why so-called 'retro' prog has a bad name among some people. Not even STARCASTLE recreate YES albums almost note for note. They wrote original compositions but tried to sound like YES. Most 'retro' prog bands simply use the sounds of the classic 70s prog bands as one of their inspirations. There's no copying at all.

Arguments like yours are why the term 'retro' has people annoyed.


Edited by russellk - November 20 2008 at 09:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 08:59
Edit: duplicate post.


Edited by russellk - November 20 2008 at 09:00
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