Led Zeppelin?

Metallica next - there can be NO denying their influence on Prog metal.

And then Judas Priest for the same reason.
    

Edited by Certif1ed - November 23 2006 at 03:27

Name me ten Zeppelin prog tracks ...

Cheesecakemouse wrote: Certif1ed wrote: Metallica next - there can be NO denying their influence on Prog metal. And then Judas Priest for the same reason.        Why not the Sex Pistols while your at it[IMG]height=17 alt=Confused src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
Good point - their influence on Prog Rock is legendary

Certif1ed wrote: Cheesecakemouse wrote: Certif1ed wrote: Metallica next - there can be NO denying their influence on Prog metal. And then Judas Priest for the same reason.        Why not the Sex Pistols while your at it[IMG]height=17 alt=Confused src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>      Good point - their influence on Prog Rock is legendary

Cheesecakemouse wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Name me ten Zeppelin prog tracks ...   C'm on !!!! Dare ya to......   Yup , Thought so!   Stairway to Heaven, Kashmir, Whole Lotta Love >>> Blues , No Quater, Over the hills and far away >> not prog , Four Sticks >> not prog , In the Light >> not prog (i think, can't really remember it, though), Achilles Last Stand, Dazed and Confused, How Many more times >> Willie Dixon blues , the Battle of Evermore,   Thats about 11 I can think of for now although HOH and Physical Graffitti have other prog moments.

I hear elements of Led Zeppelin in The Mars Volta and hear Page sounding riffs here and there in a few prog bands. I recently listened to Camel's debut and thought some of the riffs were influenced by Page. I always thought Page and Howe had very similar sounding guitars, but don't know if Page actually influenced Howe. Page even sort of replaced Howe for the XYZ project.

Edited by earlyprog - November 23 2006 at 05:05

i must have been asleep yesterday, LED ZEPPELIN  are here at last! i knew they'd get here eventually, there has been much discussion, but all i got to say is

Sean Trane wrote: Cheesecakemouse wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Name me ten Zeppelin prog tracks ...   C'm on !!!! Dare ya to......   Yup , Thought so!   Stairway to Heaven, Kashmir, Whole Lotta Love >>> Blues , No Quater, Over the hills and far away >> not prog , Four Sticks >> not prog , In the Light >> not prog (i think, can't really remember it, though), Achilles Last Stand, Dazed and Confused, How Many more times >> Willie Dixon blues , the Battle of Evermore,   Thats about 11 I can think of for now although HOH and Physical Graffitti have other prog moments.     Sorry only six, here!!! You might have forgotten Rain song and one on III, but you will not find 10

Four Stick is prog. Over The Hills And Far Away is prog. The Crunge. Carouselambra.
That's ten.
I'm gonna Crawl...
That's eleven.
Want more?

Now, your turn. Name ten Asia prog tracks?

Oh, of course you can.

Now compare them to Zeppelin tracks.

Which band is more progressive?

But that's pointless.

Peace

This was an inclusion I wasn't in favour of. I'm not going to get into a chest beating frenzy about it, and at the end of the day, the owners supported their inclusion, but in principle, I feel Sean is EXACTLY right.

There are so few prog songs in Zeppelin's catalogue. 'No Quarter', 'The Song Remains The Same', 'The Rain Song', 'In The Light', 'Stairway To Heaven', 'Achilles Last Stand'...and that's it, imho. How on earth are the funk pastiche 'The Crunge', the blues rock of 'Whole Lotta Love' and the folk rock of 'Over The Hills and Far Away' prog?? I just cannot see it. Not one album is a prog album, and in fact those songs wouldn't make an album on their own- not enough. Their inclusion will mean all manner of heavy rock/metal bands are now proposed, and we lose focus of what we should really be concentrating on- proper prog. I think the 'prog related' concept is now completely exhausted- please leave it how it stands and leave off from further additions, before credibility will be completely strained, imo.

And the Asia argument isn't valid at all, I'm afraid. I think some people have only ever heard the debut. The Payne era, while hardly progressive rock, is certainly prog related in the same way Styx, Magnum etc are. All of those albums with the exception of 'Aqua', really, had a better mixture of melodic rock and prog, and a fuller sound. And at least Asia had the benefit of having the members they did have, though that's not an argument I ever use, it's easy to see why they are here.