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Cristi 
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Make a case for prog-related. I see this band is appreciated and beloved by many.
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Sean Trane
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Don't get me wrong, I like me some Bossa Nova and I'm the artisan for Carlos Santana's presence on PA, etc.... I should really relisten to Layuca, cause I'm not that sure abiout the Latino thing anymore... it's been decades since last listen.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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SteveG
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Posted: May 30 2023 at 06:28 |
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What bands should not be in PA is probably a better question.
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Cristi
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Posted: May 30 2023 at 06:30 |
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start a thread , or maybe not...joke aside, there are a few bands that if suggested today, would not make it on PA. For example Rhapsody and all its incarnations.
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Cambus741
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Posted: May 30 2023 at 09:42 |
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Current 93
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Logan
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Posted: May 30 2023 at 13:31 |
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Current 93 is in PA. That 90s run of Thunder Perfect Mind, Of Ruine or Some Blazing Starre, All the Pretty Little Horses, and Horsey are all in my collection and I think great. Thunder Perfect Mind is my personal favourite. I still have not heard a lot of Current 93. If a City Is Set Upon a Hill was a fine album from last year.
Erm, unless you are responding to the two posts just before yours and you think Current 93 should not be included in The Prog archive. Edited by Logan - May 30 2023 at 18:08 |
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altered_beast
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Tears for Fears (Prog Related)
My favorite Progressive Pop act of all time. Their debut album “The Hurting” has a lot of hints of King Crimson influences. Has plenty of complex and artistic moments and an interesting concept album. “Seeds of Love“ is mostly a Jazz Rock album. Reminds me a bit of Steely Dan at times but more Progressive sounding. “Songs from the Big Chair” is their commercially successful album. Always surprises me just how good it is when listening to it again. Quite a few experimental moments and some Jazzy moments. “The Tipping Point” was my favorite album last year. And Prog Report raved over it. Yes it always stirs controversy when this band is mentioned in Prog Archives. Mixing Pop with Prog can be polarizing to some people. I always wondered if Talk Talk would have ever changed their sound if it were not for Tears for Fears and the high standard they set. I always liked them more than 10cc, ELO, and Supertramp. Yes even more than Roxy Music which is an enormous compliment. |
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richardh
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^ always think that alongside Tears for Fears and Talk Talk that China Crisis also deserve a mention. The big 3 of 80's creative pop music perhaps. They were never heavy enough for my taste although the 80's was primarily a synthetic decade when it came to commercially successful bands. Then Guns N Roses came along...
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Saperlipopette!
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Mark Hollis (and his group) were estranged by their own sound from the get go. Their change of sound was completely their own. Or rather they changed their sound before their debut, and gradually got back to what they initially had set themselves out for. Hollis was fascinated by the use of silence, and John Coltrane, Miles Davis (with Gil Evans in particular) and composers such as John Cage. He never wanted his pop stardom. This is from an unpublished 1984-inteview with Mark Hollis (around the time when It's My Life was just released): Alright. Talk Talk. Did it use to be a guitar-less band? MH: Yes. That’s right. With just three of you? MH: Yeah. it was just vocals, keyboards, bass, and drums. Why the change? MH: Well, you see the original premise for that was–I’m sure you won’t see a direct comparison–but you know like with John Coltrane, when he’s in his quartet? Uh-huh. MH: That was the initial idea for that actual lineup, so that it was like, you know, a bass that could be sort of melodic at some points and could be rhythmic at other points. And then keyboards and drums and the vocals to actually state the melody. The other thing about it, you see, was, being a lineup like that it was an easy one to actually increase upon because it immediately made everything sort of keyboard-orientated. -a little further out in the interview they start talking about his older brother Ed Hollis... MH: So maybe when I was ten he started playing me Traffic stuff, you know, and the Doors and all that sort of thing, the Floyd and everything. And then he’d say ‘Well, start listening to this,’ and it would be all this early blues stuff like Howlin’ Wolf and that, early Hooker and stuff. It’s nice to have someone turn you on to that stuff. MH: Then he’d sort of go, ‘Well, now start listening to this,’ and it’d be like Coltrane and Ornette Coleman, you know, and then he’d go ‘Listen to this’ and it’d be like Carl Orff and, you know, Shostakovich. People who were sort of quite intense. This has just been like that all the way down the line, you know. You could say he’s like a mentor to me in a way ‘cause he’s just always trying to give me new ideas in terms of things I should be listening to basically. Btw: I love Tears For Fears, but I don't think Talk Talk were looking for inspiration from their contemporaries.
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^ Is the full interview available somewhere?
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Lewian
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I get "server not found" unfortunately. But I could repair it. It's There was a colon missing in your link. Thanks anyway, nice read!
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Agreed. Along with XTC, China Crisis was also next on my mind for 80’s Prog-Pop not on Prog Archives. China Crisis was amazing. And it got even more interesting when former Steely Dans Walter Becker joined on keyboards. Both Tears for Fears and China Crisis have been played on Progressive Rock radio stations that I have listened to. I also like early albums from OMD and Simple Minds but unfortunately they didn’t stay the way they started with Prog influences and strong experimental elements going much more commercial.
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That’s what I love about Talk Talk. I’m really into a lot of Jazz and have been for decades. The Jazz influences really stand out. They incorporate Jazz influences in a way that reminds me of Pink Floyd at times. Trying to interpret improvisation and sound from using different instruments. Brass to electric.
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You may not be the only one... I just spotted that in a side remark in the Springsteen thread Greg told Lorenzo "you missed a colon"... Probably worth an entry in the bugs and issue thread or however it's called.
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Two very important argentinian bands from the 70's that should be here:
-Pescado Rabioso with the great Luis Alberto Spinetta. The 1973 album "Artaud" is a milestone in latinamerican prog. -Color Humano, lead by Edelmiro Molinari (ex Almendra).
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Cristi
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Posted: June 01 2023 at 10:01 |
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Have they ever been suggested? If not, here's your chance.
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^ I think I stumbled once on a very old thread suggesting Pescado. Here's a classic mini-suite from their last album, Artaud. Kind of "electro-acoustic" prog:
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Yeah, honestly, a lot of power/symphonic metal bands wouldn't make it if they were suggested today
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