American Politics the 2016 edition

Term limits for Congress. Some have been in there 30 years. 

John Mc Cain can go get a real job

timothy leary wrote: John Mc Cain can go get a real job

dr wu23 wrote: timothy leary wrote: Term limits for Congress. Some have been in there 30 years.      Absolutely....it was time for this years ago. And term limits on Supreme Court judges also. None of these people need to be in there for life.

oh, but we need them senile in the Supreme Court so that they will nod every bill through

timothy leary wrote: I think it is Congress that approves bills

As a Limey on the outside, that is what I thought as well

lazland wrote: timothy leary wrote: I think it is Congress that approves bills As a Limey on the outside, that is what I thought as well

Correct.  Congress approves the bills.  The Supreme Court doesn't make law, they just interpret the law that Congress has written and the President has signed off on.  However, as discussed previously, the Court judges have been know to interpret the Constitution to make the law in favor of whichever political parties' point of view they side on, which in effect does create law, despite what they say. 

Regarding term limits we are talking about moderate terms like 6-8 years or so . If an intelligent politician (and we are assuming they have some political experience to begin with on some level) can't figure out their job in a couple of years then he or she probably doesn't belong there to begin with imho.

The email server investigation is ongoing (I don't expect her to be indicted), and a possible conflict of interest investigation when it came to Clinton Foundation donations is ongoing, as well as possible misuse of charitable funds. Certainly there is political motivation and collusion when it comes to such investigations.

dr wu23 wrote: Regarding term limits we are talking about moderate terms like 6-8 years or so . If an intelligent politician (and we are assuming they have some political experience to begin with on some level) can't figure out their job in a couple of years then he or she probably doesn't belong there to begin with imho. Being in there any longer breeds complacency, corruption , and contempt. These Federal , State, and other political jobs have become careers to the extent that people want them to gain power and wealth and not for any public cause. When it comes to president I don't really trust anyone who actually wants the job...that's more about ego imo, and not a sign of someone who is going to do the right thing in many cases.

Honestly, I don't think it really matters.  I think that we are screwed by out politicians either way.  Michigan has the strictest term limits in the country.  I have spoken with political analysts that have said that the term limits are actually bad for our state because of the turnover and the points that I described in my previous post.  You spend your first term learning the ropes and then in your 2nd term you have the power to do something because the 2nd term people were termed out the last time...but you are a lame duck politician so you are either passing laws to benefit your next employer or you are spending your term running for your next political office.  I definitely see both sides of the coin.  It is a shame that when you have an honest, good person doing the job they have to lose their job because of term limits and pass it on to who knows who.  

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