Covid-19 and the madness of crowds

Yeah, my best friend's mother-in-law has permanent intestine damage due to covid, nothing will ever be alright again for her.

Edited by Easy Money - October 25 2020 at 13:11

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Great news for anyone living in the U.K:- The total number of registered deaths in England for August 2020 was 2,060 less than the five year monthly average and the lowest since regular monthly records of deaths began at the beginning of the 21st century. In addition, Covid-19 has now been downgraded to only the 24th most common cause of death in England, which I believe is good reason for optimism. Here's the stats:- https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12703599/coronavirus-no-longer-10-biggest-killers-england/ The lyrics of the "Three Little Birds" song always spring to mind when I think of the Chinese "panic-demic."

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Regarding the title of this thread, I wonder if everyone's aware that Douglas Murray's book "The Madness of Crowds" was published last year and was unrelated to the current Chinese flu panic-demic.

As soon as the covid-19 appeared, I felt very scared. I was very worried about the health of my family and mine. That's why I had anxiety. I didn't know how to deal with it. Once on Canada Druds I found good advice. I started to communicate more with family and friends on positive topics, I was engaged in my hobby - drawing, listening to nice music. I also realized that there are things that cannot be changed. It really helped me. I feel great but I`m wary of quarantine

Edited by jjuliajul11 - December 28 2020 at 02:37

^ What a wuss, he left his underwear on.

At this point I know personally close to 20 who have gotten it, two were hospitalized, and of those two one has permanent damage to her internal organs.

Well yesterday the official scientific advisers to our devolved government (the Welsh equivalent of SAGE) asked the public to cancel their plans for Christmas and stay locked up in their own little hovels. Personally, I don’t care much for Christmas, but if they think that edict is going to be widely respected, then they really are pissing in the wind. The politicians aren’t being as stark just yet, but Gething (our Health Minister) was looking particularly hangdog on the news.

Welcome back David. 

I don't know where the flu came into this but I shouldn't be surprised. But let me give a small factoid here. We in India have never had a flu problem. We just don't. But we ARE having a covid pandemic same as everywhere else. I know young fellows who came down badly with him and still have breathing issues months after getting it. But OK, keep believing it's just a flu made out as something else for some hidden agenda that would involve destroying millions of businesses as well as city and state budgets, whatever helps people get through the day. I am writing this from a covid center myself but I am a mostly asymptomatic case, nothing to worry. Except that, uh, had I not tested, my father who has hypertension could have got it and there's no saying what could have happened then.

lazland wrote: Well yesterday the official scientific advisers to our devolved government (the Welsh equivalent of SAGE) asked the public to cancel their plans for Christmas and stay locked up in their own little hovels. Personally, I don’t care much for Christmas, but if they think that edict is going to be widely respected, then they really are pissing in the wind. The politicians aren’t being as stark just yet, but Gething (our Health Minister) was looking particularly hangdog on the news. Hospitals are filling up again, infections are rising, and “our health service” is in danger of falling apart. Strange how they don’t remark particularly on just how sh*te that health service is. Even an infection rate of 400 in every 100,000 is only 0.4% of the population (a figure you don’t hear on the news). Of these, only a very tiny proportion will require hospitalisation. We are basically all paying for years of underfunded healthcare, across the Western world, not just here. Oh, and the news this morning says that 10% of health staff are either off sick, or isolating with the lurgy. Many of those staff have been treated like dirt for many years, and that, to me, is a far more plausible explanation for them being off work than all of them having the lurg. Either that, or hospitals are cesspits of infection, which is also deeply concerning. Actually, talking about that, a 62 year old chap from our neighbouring village died last week, and as he contracted Covid in intensive care ward of the hospital, he is counted as a coronavirus victim on the official statistics. What those stats don’t tell you is that he had a heart condition for years, and had recently suffered badly from gangrene. He was carted into hospital for an operation, and had to be resuscitated during the op, after which the poor chap got sepsis, which is deadly serious. So, he really wasn’t a well bunny anyway, and the official statistics should not, in my opinion, show him as a virus victim. I’m sure getting it didn’t help a great deal, but that was not the full story. As an example of the silly rules in place here now, I can pop down the pub at lunchtime to have pie and chips with a drink of coke, and feel perfectly safe from Covid, but only as long as I finish by 6.00 p.m. when they, and restaurants/cafes, have to close. However, I am banned from having a pint of beer with said gastronomic treat, as that, apparently, would increase my chances of dying from the lurg. Go figure. My Dad lives on the Welsh side of the border. My sister lives 10 minutes away on the English side. My Dad, even if he was so inclined, cannot go out for a pint in his village. However, if he were to drive to where my sister lives, which is in Tier 2 restrictions in England, he could have a pint of beer until closing time, but only if it is with a “substantial meal”, although government have confirmed that a scotch egg is a substantial meal. It is this type of micromanagement by government of people’s lives that so grates, and it is really starting to become very unpopular in the wider population, and not just ingrates such as I. There is only one thing worse than an authoritarian government. That is an incompetent authoritarian government. When we scream out for such people to save us, then we need to be extremely careful what we wish for. Hong Kong Phooey for President, anyone?

This is all becoming quite silly now. In California, which has the strictest of covid restrictions, the virus rates have been spiraling out of control and they are now implementing even stricter restrictions like banning all outdoor dinning. It's time for the populous to make up their own minds on this one. I see nothing wrong in wearing masks, but this is going overboard and is going to sink the restaurant industry in that state, as well as others that follow their lead. Their must be some kind of livable middle ground in all this.

rogerthat wrote: I don't know where the flu came into this but I shouldn't be surprised. But let me give a small factoid here. We in India have never had a flu problem. We just don't. But we ARE having a covid pandemic same as everywhere else. I know young fellows who came down badly with him and still have breathing issues months after getting it. But OK, keep believing it's just a flu made out as something else for some hidden agenda that would involve destroying millions of businesses as well as city and state budgets, whatever helps people get through the day. I am writing this from a covid center myself but I am a mostly asymptomatic case, nothing to worry. Except that, uh, had I not tested, my father who has hypertension could have got it and there's no saying what could have happened then.