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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 21:35
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

It's really sad how underrated Omar Rodriguez-Lopez is as a guitarist. He is by far my favorite guitarist of all time. 
Versatile, unique, interesting, and doesn't come off as pompous. He is the perfect hybrid. 

Televators, Cassandra Gemini, Drunkship of Lanterns, Goliath, Tetragrammaton. Great exposure to some of his material that pops into my head instantly. 
 
From the two Mars Volta albums I've heard, I've been really impressed with his guitar work.  Maybe he's not the greatest technical guitar player of all time, but I would much rather have him in a band than Petrucci or Yngwie or any of those type of players.  Lots of people can play fast and interesting parts but few can compose guitar music like Omar can.

Which albums if i may ask? Because he sure can solo/shred when the man wants to. Ala Goliath. 
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Allan Holdsworth
John McLaughlin
Robert Fripp
Markus Reuter
Steve Howe
Steve Hackett
Jan Akkerman
 
 


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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

It's really sad how underrated Omar Rodriguez-Lopez is as a guitarist. He is by far my favorite guitarist of all time. 
Versatile, unique, interesting, and doesn't come off as pompous. He is the perfect hybrid. 

Televators, Cassandra Gemini, Drunkship of Lanterns, Goliath, Tetragrammaton. Great exposure to some of his material that pops into my head instantly. 
 
From the two Mars Volta albums I've heard, I've been really impressed with his guitar work.  Maybe he's not the greatest technical guitar player of all time, but I would much rather have him in a band than Petrucci or Yngwie or any of those type of players.  Lots of people can play fast and interesting parts but few can compose guitar music like Omar can.

Which albums if i may ask? Because he sure can solo/shred when the man wants to. Ala Goliath. 
 
Deloused and Noctourniquet.  I don't mean that he's not technically skilled, just that it's not his real strength like it is for the shred guitarists I mentioned.  But I'll have to listen more closely to his playing because I realize that technical skill goes way beyond speed and shed techniques.  Just as a new TMV fan I was more impressed with his compositional skill than his technical skill.
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I know this is redundant, but other than that ... but why the hell not?

(in no particular order):
R. Fripp
J. McLaughlin
B. Jansch
D. Gilmour
S. Howe
J. Weinzierl
The Edge
Conny Veit/Daniel Fichelscher (Popol Vuh)
Vini Reilly (The Durutti Column)
D. Byrne/J. Harrison (Talking Heads)
F. Zappa (nearly phenomenal guitarist)

------ And then down below (so far. I still have to get to know them better. I said "So far".) ---------
M. Barre (JT)
S. Hackett
A. Holdsworth
A. Phillips
L. Stephens (Blue Cheer)
B. Sumner (Joy Division)
G. Harrison
P. Miller
J. Page
R. Sosna/J-H. Peron

Don't ask me where Jimi is. I still just don't like his guitar styles in general.


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Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

John Petrucci - easily the best technical guitarist possibly ever
Andy Latimer - the feeling the man can produce from a guitar is at times unbelievable
Steve Hackett - One of the engines behind the brilliant period of what is arguably the best prog band of its or any        other time.
David Gilmour - what needs to be said.
Steve Rothery - similarly to Latimer the man has the touch
Gary Moore - he aint prog but hell - one of the best of all time
 
Agree with all but Moore.  Since he's not prog, I don't know him...
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Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

John Petrucci - easily the best technical guitarist possibly ever
Andy Latimer - the feeling the man can produce from a guitar is at times unbelievable
Steve Hackett - One of the engines behind the brilliant period of what is arguably the best prog band of its or any        other time.
David Gilmour - what needs to be said.
Steve Rothery - similarly to Latimer the man has the touch
Gary Moore - he aint prog but hell - one of the best of all time
 
Agree with all but Moore.  Since he's not prog, I don't know him...
With Colosseum he was
 
(bit hissy but you get the idea)
 
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Already posted this on another one, but why not.
1. Steve Howe
2. Bert Jansch
3. Steve Hackett
4. Anthony Phillips
5. John McLaughlin
6. John Renbourn
The rest in no specifiic order
Jimmy Page
Steve Rothery
Martin Barre
Andy Latimer
David Zackrisson


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

John Petrucci - easily the best technical guitarist possibly ever
Andy Latimer - the feeling the man can produce from a guitar is at times unbelievable
Steve Hackett - One of the engines behind the brilliant period of what is arguably the best prog band of its or any        other time.
David Gilmour - what needs to be said.
Steve Rothery - similarly to Latimer the man has the touch
Gary Moore - he aint prog but hell - one of the best of all time
 
Agree with all but Moore.  Since he's not prog, I don't know him...
With Colosseum he was
 
(bit hissy but you get the idea)
 
Made a believer out of me.  I stand corrected on Gary Moore (playing with Colosseum...)
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Posted in this topic about a year ago and realized I never put Frank Zappa on my list. Whoops.
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I saw the tour of McLaughlin, Di Meola and Paco De Lucia and that was guitar heaven. Seeing Stanley Jordan live also left me speechless.

BTW I play guitar amateur level. So difficult to pick up the "greatest" but some other favourites not in any order are:
 
Hackett:  he seems to understand guitar in quite a different way from most guitarists and this makes him unique, I love his approach.
 
Fripp:  the same, unique and always challenging.
 
Gilmour, Rothery and Latimer:  not technically amazing but such a feeling.
 
Shawn Lane:   great skill, too bad he never got to play in a band of his level (RIP).
 
Steve Vai:  much of the music he makes is not that great but he is damn good with the axe. Same goes for Yngwie Malmsteen, Tony MacAlpine, Greg Howe or Michael Lee Firkins.
 
Brian May:  what he did in his best years is unrepeatable.
 
Howe:  great balance playing electric but without much distortion, and great work with the steel too. Did some great acoustic songs but I always wondered why he could never repeat the inspiration and 30 years on he still has to play The Clap or Mood For A Day as his acoustic highlights.
 
Nuno Bettencourt:  not a prog legend but the work he did in Extreme's Three Sides To Every Story was amazing, too bad he never played in a prog band and became alcoholic, really a wasted huge talent. 
 
Alan Holdsworth:  technically impeccable, too bad his compositions were not always great.
 
Petrucci:  too bad that he is not a softer progger but I have to take my hat off for his technical skills and hard work.
 
Steve Morse:  great picking technique and he has written some really good music although not too proggy.
 
The list could go on and on...
 
 
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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2012 at 06:38
Maybe not prog, but this man is to the Spanish guitar, what Hendrix is to the electric:
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No particular order:
-Steve Howe
-John McLaughlin
-Robert Fripp
-Andy Latimer
-David Gilmour
-Steven Wilson
-Frank Zappa
-Allan Holdsworth
-Alex Lifeson
-Jonny Greenwood (maybe prog-related? Either way, I love his guitar tone)
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Steve Hackett
Alex Lifeson 
Steve Howe
John Mitchell
John McLaughlin
Adrian Belew
Steve Hillage
Allan Holdsworth
Brett Kull
Francis Dunnery
Jan Akkerman
Andy Latimer
Markus Steffen
Brian May


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What, no Peter Banks??  

More or less in order....

Robert Fripp
Steve Howe
Steve Hackett
Peter Banks
John McLaughlin
Allan Holdsworth
John Goodsall
"The Amazing" John Clarke (Bruford)
Daryl Stuermer
Adrian Belew

...and many more, most have hit the best ones (except for forgetting about PETER FREAKING BROCKBANKS!!)Angry
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What, no Peter Banks??  
...and many more, most have hit the best ones (except for forgetting about PETER FREAKING BROCKBANKS!!)Angry

Sell it to us. What would you recommend ... or post?
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Sell it to Prog Archives??  This is one of the very few sites in the universe that recognizes Pete's genius! 

Yet (probably ... probably) no one included him into the list.

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Face it, he was one of the first, right there with Bob Fripp (they were flatmates in those days, and you can hear the common influences including use of volume pedal & fuzz tone).  

Wow. Did not know that.

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:


His work with Yes was more subtle than Howe's but very elegant....and they guy does not hurt for chops at all!  

Recommended listening: Flash "In the Can" and "Out of our Hands," "Two Sides of Peter Banks," and his various guest roles. 

Pete never had the success of his peers, I've never quite figured that out.  Personality?  Personal issues?  Eccentricity?  Regardless, he shaped the sound of prog much more than some listed (Patrucci is an excellent technician, but I don't find him to be very subtle, and he seems to blow away at full speed constantly.)

Check out Banks' licks at 2:06 of this little gem:


There's an error. Is it on YouTube?




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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Sell it to Prog Archives??  This is one of the very few sites in the universe that recognizes Pete's genius! 

Yet (probably ... probably) no one included him into the list.

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Face it, he was one of the first, right there with Bob Fripp (they were flatmates in those days, and you can hear the common influences including use of volume pedal & fuzz tone).  

Wow. Did not know that.

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:


His work with Yes was more subtle than Howe's but very elegant....and they guy does not hurt for chops at all!  

Recommended listening: Flash "In the Can" and "Out of our Hands," "Two Sides of Peter Banks," and his various guest roles. 

Pete never had the success of his peers, I've never quite figured that out.  Personality?  Personal issues?  Eccentricity?  Regardless, he shaped the sound of prog much more than some listed (Patrucci is an excellent technician, but I don't find him to be very subtle, and he seems to blow away at full speed constantly.)

Check out Banks' licks at 2:06 of this little gem:


There's an error. Is it on YouTube?



Sorry, the connection dropped, here's the vid......2:06!   I like this one for showcasing Ray Bennett's Rick bass as well. 

Pete was there at the very beginning, his influence on Yes alone makes him one of the greatest prog guitarists in history.  

Patrucci?  He benefits from modern equipment, lots of schooling that wasn't available 40 years earlier, and the musical tradition started by guys like Banks and Fripp.  


This is a must-read interview with Pete....his career isn't studded with the sheer volume of work of his contemporaries, and yet, I savor every note he played!   I only wish he had found sidemen who would have been up to his talent level & ambition (Two Sides Of PB hints at that).  Enjoy!





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^ Nice solo around 2:08 Thumbs Up . One of those guitar tones I like Smile .
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Sell it to Prog Archives??  This is one of the very few sites in the universe that recognizes Pete's genius! 

Yet (probably ... probably) no one included him into the list.

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Face it, he was one of the first, right there with Bob Fripp (they were flatmates in those days, and you can hear the common influences including use of volume pedal & fuzz tone).  

Wow. Did not know that.

This is from the Peter Banks interview I posted earlier:

-And Robert Fripp ended up living with you in the same flat in Fulham where you used to live with Yes before. Is that right?

Yes, when Flash we were rehearsing in '72. That was a strange thing when Robert Fripp moved in because Bill (Bruford) was the last one who moved out and that was a little bit strange because Bill and I we were still sharing this flat along with his girlfriend and my girlfriend, and I actually got fired from Yes, and it was a bit of a strange thing. Because they all still said that they didn't know I'd been fired until that day. And we did a gig and then I was told I had to leave. 

So for Bill and I would be very difficult, particularly because we would share the kitchen and the bathroom and I wouldn't talk to him at all, and that was for several months! (laugh). And then of course, when Fripp moved in, Fripp had just recruited Bill and they were working in 'Lark's Tongues In Aspic' with John Wetton, and Fripp would ask me how were the rehearsals with Flash, if it was a good day and that. 

But I never asked Fripp how rehearsals were because I didn't want to start talking about Bill, I had still a big grievance about why I was got rid of. It wasn't until Flash became quite successful and toured America that I felt a bit better about the whole thing. All of that was a bit strange.

(I would have loved to have dropped by that flat on a good day!!  CStack3)



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I've recently discovered the Swedish band Trettioariga Kriget, and their guitar player Christer Akerberg is fantastic.
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